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  • MikM Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Mik
    #2

    Liability, baby.

    But then I have long said we should not tolerate any protest that impedes any public thoroughfare.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • MikM Mik

      Liability, baby.

      But then I have long said we should not tolerate any protest that impedes any public thoroughfare.

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      @Mik said in Delayed organs:

      But then I have long said we should not tolerate any protest that impedes any public thoroughfare.

      Same for political rallies/conventions, visits by political leaders and celebrities, parades, sporting events (e.g., city marathons). Move them to unpopulated areas where there are no one to bother.

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        FFS. Can you seriously not see the fundamental difference between these activities?

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • MikM Mik

          FFS. Can you seriously not see the fundamental difference between these activities?

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          @Mik said in Delayed organs:

          Can you seriously not see the fundamental difference between these activities?

          Dude, I am agreeing with you. I just think you think too small, too narrowly. I support what you said, and expanded it to include more scenarios.

          If you believe I missed certain key differences, enumerate them and we can discuss.

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            Fair enough. But I draw a distinction between activities that are simply intended to inconvenience and those that are a matter of public participation.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            • MikM Mik

              Fair enough. But I draw a distinction between activities that are simply intended to inconvenience and those that are a matter of public participation.

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              @Mik said in Delayed organs:

              But I draw a distinction between activities that are simply intended to inconvenience and those that are a matter of public participation.

              Public protest is a matter of public participation too, is it not?

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                The difference being the congestion is a side effect of the e participation, not the sole intention.

                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @Mik said in Delayed organs:

                  But I draw a distinction between activities that are simply intended to inconvenience and those that are a matter of public participation.

                  Public protest is a matter of public participation too, is it not?

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                  @Axtremus said in Delayed organs:

                  Public protest is a matter of public participation too, is it not?

                  It is murder.

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                    I know that Ax is being Ax, but I get what he is saying (I think).

                    One mans rally is another mans protest.

                    President Trump/Biden holds a rally that blocks off the surrounding streets.
                    Abortion in favor/against group holds a rally that blocks off the surrounding streets.

                    No easy answers. At least there is the freedom to hold these and I guess that is better than the opposite.

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      I know that Ax is being Ax, but I get what he is saying (I think).

                      One mans rally is another mans protest.

                      President Trump/Biden holds a rally that blocks off the surrounding streets.
                      Abortion in favor/against group holds a rally that blocks off the surrounding streets.

                      No easy answers. At least there is the freedom to hold these and I guess that is better than the opposite.

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                      George K
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                      @taiwan_girl said in Delayed organs:

                      President Trump/Biden holds a rally that blocks off the surrounding streets.

                      With permits - legal.

                      Abortion in favor/against group holds a rally that blocks off the surrounding streets.

                      Without permits - illegal.

                      Simple.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        #12

                        No, TG, that completely misses the point. Rallies and sport events etc. do not INTEND to cause traffic problems, it's a secondary characteristic of widely popular events. These protests intend to use impeding ingress and egress as a weapon.

                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        • MikM Mik

                          No, TG, that completely misses the point. Rallies and sport events etc. do not INTEND to cause traffic problems, it's a secondary characteristic of widely popular events. These protests intend to use impeding ingress and egress as a weapon.

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                          George K
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                          @Mik said in Delayed organs:

                          Rallies and sport events etc. do not INTEND to cause traffic problem

                          And, they are legal.

                          Lock them up.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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