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The True Nature of the World is Savagery

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  • George KG George K

    @89th said in The True Nature of the World is Savagery:

    300,000 US soldiers died in Vietnam

    What?

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    Wim
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    @George-K I thought it was appr. 60,000.
    Which is horrible just as well.

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      I think it was around 56,000. It certainly wasn't 300,000.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • George KG George K

        @89th said in The True Nature of the World is Savagery:

        300,000 US soldiers died in Vietnam

        What?

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        @George-K said in The True Nature of the World is Savagery:

        @89th said in The True Nature of the World is Savagery:

        300,000 US soldiers died in Vietnam

        What?

        Try 59,000.

        Still a lot of humanity.

        Elbows up!

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        • 89th8 89th

          @Doctor-Phibes said in The True Nature of the World is Savagery:

          @89th said in The True Nature of the World is Savagery:

          I think we generally stopped after Vietnam.

          How many people died in the Iraq war? Afghanistan?

          Like 300,000 US soldiers died in Vietnam and like 4,000 in Iraq. I believe 600,000 enemy fighters were killed in Vietnam, although I'm sure civilian deaths are hard to calculate but I'd imagine are in the hundreds of thousands in both Vietnam and Iraq.

          Anyway, I appreciate your replies here and generally agree, especially the idea of my son fighting in one of these modern wars where it's really the US playing policeman in a foreign country.

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          @89th said in The True Nature of the World is Savagery:

          I believe 600,000 enemy fighters were killed in Vietnam

          Rambo killed that many in a week.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            The point of the article wasn't that we should learn how to die again, it was that we should learn how to kill and destroy, so surely the important statistic for this guy is how many foreigners died, rather than Americans?

            Personally, I think the writer's a bit (I'm being kind) of a dickhead, but that's just me. I don't see how lots of Germans dying in Germany is really that different from lots of Iraqis dying in Iraq.

            I was only joking

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              89th
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              Oops sorry, my google included allied forces too. I was just making sure you were paying attention.

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                Jolly
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                53,000,000 deaths, WW2.

                Been nothing remotely like it since. Especially in the West, as the author has noted.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  53,000,000 deaths, WW2.

                  Been nothing remotely like it since. Especially in the West, as the author has noted.

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                  @Jolly said in The True Nature of the World is Savagery:

                  53,000,000 deaths, WW2.

                  Been nothing remotely like it since. Especially in the West, as the author has noted.

                  Oh I dunno, my uncle spent some time in Bosnia. Long enough to know playing death count games is what you do if you have the luxury of never being in a conflict.

                  I mean neither have I but I know what that does to my credibility when playing armchair general.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    53,000,000 deaths, WW2.

                    Been nothing remotely like it since. Especially in the West, as the author has noted.

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                    @Jolly said in The True Nature of the World is Savagery:

                    53,000,000 deaths, WW2.

                    Been nothing remotely like it since. Especially in the West, as the author has noted.

                    By death count alone, WW2 really wasn't a western war. China lost 20 million, and Russia another 24 million, although admittedly they were fighting a western nation.

                    I was only joking

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                      #32

                      What is a war?

                      War is defined as an active conflict that has claimed more than 1,000 lives.

                      Has the world ever been at peace?

                      Of the past 3,400 years, humans have been entirely at peace for 268 of them, or just 8 percent of recorded history.

                      How many people have died in war?

                      At least 108 million people were killed in wars in the twentieth century. Estimates for the total number killed in wars throughout all of human history range from 150 million to 1 billion.

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/books/chapters/what-every-person-should-know-about-war.html#:~:text=How many people have died,150 million to 1 billion.

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                        Jolly
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                        Si vis pacem, para bellum

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          Nosferatu Bellendium

                          I was only joking

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                            @Jolly

                            Si vis pacem, para bellum

                            Alicuius filius sufficiet

                            Elbows up!

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                              Lingua utere ut canetis captiosus

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                                What's Latin for keyboard?

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                  George K
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                                  Semper ubi sub ubi.

                                  image.jpeg

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    Semper ubi sub ubi.

                                    image.jpeg

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                                    @George-K said in The True Nature of the World is Savagery:

                                    Semper ubi sub ubi.

                                    Every time you post that it brings me right back to high school Latin class.

                                    Taught by Brother Floyd, he could knock you right out of your seat with a backhand.

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      What's Latin for keyboard?

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                                      Renauda
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                                      @Mik said in The True Nature of the World is Savagery:

                                      What's Latin for keyboard?

                                      fabricata tabula lapidea

                                      555

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        @Mik said in The True Nature of the World is Savagery:

                                        What's Latin for keyboard?

                                        fabricata tabula lapidea

                                        555

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                                        @Renauda said in The True Nature of the World is Savagery:

                                        @Mik said in The True Nature of the World is Savagery:

                                        What's Latin for keyboard?

                                        fabricata tabula lapidea

                                        555

                                        I think you made that one up...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Renauda
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                                          #42

                                          @Jolly

                                          Indeed I did.

                                          How about:

                                          plectrologium or Computatrum tincidunt

                                          555

                                          Elbows up!

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