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No cooperation with the defense

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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    #21

    I've seen some of this too in a kind of once-removed situation which I won't go into. It's absolutely heartbreaking.

    I was only joking

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    • RenaudaR Renauda

      I have to agree with Blondie, Phibes and 89. Don’t ask why either because I will not explain how I arrive at that conclusion. Suffice to say I fully understand and empathise with the foster mother.

      Incarceration in a jail for this youth is not an answer or a deterrent. Fluid reasoning as we understand it is far beyond his capacity. Institutionalization in a suitable mental health facility is the only civilised option for this unfortunate.

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      @Renauda said in No cooperation with the defense:

      Fluid reasoning as we understand it is far beyond his capacity.

      There are people for whom that's true. But we're here on the internet, without medical degrees, pontificating about this particular kid's emotional stability and none of us know him or the history of his care.

      I'm not at all convinced this was or was not completely unavoidable. And the fact that the situation is tragic doesn't mean that violence is always inevitable with people who have learning and developmental issues as bad as his.

      Please love yourself.

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        @Aqua-Letifer

        There’s much more to their disability than violence. The inability to interact effectively (by which I mean, normally) with other people or follow instructions are also common manifestations. These spectrum disorders are a massive Venn diagram of revolving and unpredictably intersecting symptom bubbles.

        Elbows up!

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          @Aqua-Letifer

          There’s much more to their disability than violence. The inability to interact effectively (by which I mean, normally) with other people or follow instructions are also common manifestations. These spectrum disorders are a massive Venn diagram of revolving and unpredictably intersecting symptom bubbles.

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          @Renauda said in No cooperation with the defense:

          These spectrum disorders are massive Venn diagram of revolving and unpredictably intersecting symptom bubbles.

          D2 has her doctorate in clinical psych. She'd agree with your assessment.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @Aqua-Letifer

            There’s much more to their disability than violence. The inability to interact effectively (by which I mean, normally) with other people or follow instructions are also common manifestations. These spectrum disorders are a massive Venn diagram of revolving and unpredictably intersecting symptom bubbles.

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            @Renauda said in No cooperation with the defense:

            @Aqua-Letifer

            There’s much more to their disability than violence. The inability to interact effectively (by which I mean, normally) with other people or follow instructions are also common manifestations. These spectrum disorders are massive Venn diagram of revolving and unpredictably intersecting symptom bubbles.

            I fully agree. I still think it's possible that somebody somewhere fucked up here in this particular case and that the violence that occurred wasn't necessarily a foregone conclusion.

            Please love yourself.

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              @blondie @89th Thanks for sharing your posts.

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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