No cooperation with the defense

[Horace]

Violence is part of our nature. It’s contained by learned social civilizing influences. Autistic people have a learning disability with social stuff. So it stands to reason they will be over represented among violent offenders.

[Renauda]

I have to agree with Blondie, Phibes and 89. Don’t ask why either because I will not explain how I arrive at that conclusion. Suffice to say I fully understand and empathise with the foster mother.

Incarceration in a jail for this youth is not an answer or a deterrent. Fluid reasoning as we understand it is far beyond his capacity. Institutionalization in a suitable mental health facility is the only civilised option for this unfortunate.

[blondie]

Thanks for sharing of your sister 89th. You’re mature beyond your years. You, your parents live this. The judge made a mistake. Those who live this understand. Special Needs has its own special spectrum, and lots of it is invisible. There’s stigma with it. There’s no cure. Some moments of relief sometimes, but it’s lifelong chronic for all involved.

[Doctor Phibes]

I've seen some of this too in a kind of once-removed situation which I won't go into. It's absolutely heartbreaking.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Renauda said in No cooperation with the defense:

Fluid reasoning as we understand it is far beyond his capacity.

There are people for whom that's true. But we're here on the internet, without medical degrees, pontificating about this particular kid's emotional stability and none of us know him or the history of his care.

I'm not at all convinced this was or was not completely unavoidable. And the fact that the situation is tragic doesn't mean that violence is always inevitable with people who have learning and developmental issues as bad as his.

[Renauda]

@Aqua-Letifer

There’s much more to their disability than violence. The inability to interact effectively (by which I mean, normally) with other people or follow instructions are also common manifestations. These spectrum disorders are a massive Venn diagram of revolving and unpredictably intersecting symptom bubbles.

[George K]

@Renauda said in No cooperation with the defense:

These spectrum disorders are massive Venn diagram of revolving and unpredictably intersecting symptom bubbles.

D2 has her doctorate in clinical psych. She'd agree with your assessment.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Renauda said in No cooperation with the defense:

@Aqua-Letifer

There’s much more to their disability than violence. The inability to interact effectively (by which I mean, normally) with other people or follow instructions are also common manifestations. These spectrum disorders are massive Venn diagram of revolving and unpredictably intersecting symptom bubbles.

I fully agree. I still think it's possible that somebody somewhere fucked up here in this particular case and that the violence that occurred wasn't necessarily a foregone conclusion.

[taiwan_girl]

@blondie @89th Thanks for sharing your posts.

[George K]