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Effects on the political landscape?

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #40

    Wagon doesn't roll without the wheels.

    No organization, no matter how hard subordinates work, functions effectively without - as W put so eloquently - a Decider.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      George is competing to take over Gutfeld’s spot.

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      @LuFins-Dad said in Effects on the political landscape?:

      George is competing to take over Gutfeld’s spot.

      Maybe Gutfeld/Buckley.

      Gutfeld is a comedian, prone to sophomoric body fluid jokes, but if you listen, especially to his monologues, there's some acumen and hard policy in there.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG George K

        @Renauda not to disagree with your point about Trump being a "passenger," but one can make the case that most presidents are "passengers" when it comes to foreign, and even domestic, policy.

        Recall that healthcare reform was never one of Obama's big things, until it became politically expedient to have his staff craft a wonderful plan that's cut costs and improved care over the last 12 years.

        When it comes to defeating terrorists, or military victories, Bush was a passenger on the Petraeus train when it rolled through Iraq.

        And, frankly, you can't tell me with a straight face that Biden isn't coasting. Hell, he even needs the good doctor to lead him off the stage.

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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by Renauda
        #42

        @George-K

        ….not to disagree with your point about Trump being a "passenger," but one can make the case that most presidents are "passengers" when it comes to foreign, and even domestic, policy.

        That’s true and I was mindful of the fact when I wrote my post. I couldn’t think of the right description at the time of writing. Still can’t.

        I am going on by what others - they need not be named - who tried to work directly with Trump have made public about his presidency. He does not come across as any sort of leader nor anyone capable of seeing the big picture. Certainly not an original thinker either. Trump comes across instead as more a hindrance to policy formation and implementation than an asset. Some might say a loose cannon or ticking time bomb.

        So I would agree that describing him as a “passenger” is inaccurate. If he were a good passenger those who have written their memoirs about their time with him would have at least described him as such or credited him with the ambiguous compliment of being an active participant. Being the petulant adolescent he is, Trump however failed to make the grade in either description.

        Elbows up!

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          So will there be calls for Tlaib to be expelled? This was minutes before the protestors stormed the building…

          How does President Biden feel about somebody in his party calling him a liar in regards to the hospital attack?

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          @LuFins-Dad said in Effects on the political landscape?:

          So will there be calls for Tlaib to be expelled? This was minutes before the protestors stormed the building…

          How does President Biden feel about somebody in his party calling him a liar in regards to the hospital attack?

          When she said it's wrong to bomb a hospital, I would've shouted "I totally agree! Have you told Hamas to stop?"

          Also, I know the answer to this, and that I'm being a little obtuse... but why are Congressional Representatives (of an area of a US state) even weighing in on the fighting between two countries far away? Like, represent your voters while voting for USA legislation, stay in your lane.

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            My favorite noise was when she lamented that the situation was being politicized.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • 89th8 89th

              @LuFins-Dad said in Effects on the political landscape?:

              So will there be calls for Tlaib to be expelled? This was minutes before the protestors stormed the building…

              How does President Biden feel about somebody in his party calling him a liar in regards to the hospital attack?

              When she said it's wrong to bomb a hospital, I would've shouted "I totally agree! Have you told Hamas to stop?"

              Also, I know the answer to this, and that I'm being a little obtuse... but why are Congressional Representatives (of an area of a US state) even weighing in on the fighting between two countries far away? Like, represent your voters while voting for USA legislation, stay in your lane.

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              @89th said in Effects on the political landscape?:

              why are Congressional Representatives (of an area of a US state) even weighing in on the fighting between two countries far away?

              Her parents are Palestinian.

              Apparently they have some influence.

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                @89th said in Effects on the political landscape?:

                why are Congressional Representatives (of an area of a US state) even weighing in on the fighting between two countries far away?

                Her parents are Palestinian.

                Apparently they have some influence.

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                @Copper said in Effects on the political landscape?:

                @89th said in Effects on the political landscape?:

                why are Congressional Representatives (of an area of a US state) even weighing in on the fighting between two countries far away?

                Her parents are Palestinian.

                Apparently they have some influence.

                Are they cousins?

                The Brad

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #47

                  In the comments: "It's always the ones you most expect."

                  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rashida-tlaib-member-secret-facebook-group-where-hamas-terrorists-glorified

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    In fairness, the article does not list posts she has made in support of Hamas. Still, her involvement leads one to suspect her views.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      Suspect?

                      Shirley, you can't be serious...😄

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • CopperC Offline
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                        Copper
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                        #50

                        Even Shirley doesn't suspect, she knows.

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