Effects on the political landscape?

[Doctor Phibes]

@Mik said in Effects on the political landscape?:

I don’t know. Opinion is pretty squarely for Israel. I’d use their own words if I were running against them.

Well, we can only hope.

[Jolly]

Going back to the original question...I was listening to Clay & Buck on the radio this week. They had a segment where they asked Jewish voters to call in and tell them if anything had changed in their politics since the Hamas attack.

Most of the callers were women. All were Democrats except for one lady in Chicago, who stated her family gave heavily to the Democrat Party, mostly through fundraisers (including for Pelosi). With the exception of the Chicago Republican, all said they would still be voting for the Democrat nominee in the Presidential race and also in other upcoming Federal office elections.

I just don't understand the seemingly monolithic support...

[LuFins Dad]

@Mik said in Effects on the political landscape?:

I don’t know. Opinion is pretty squarely for Israel. I’d use their own words if I were running against them.

I don’t think this is as one-sided as you think.

Kind of insurrectioney, no?

[Copper]

@xenon said in Effects on the political landscape?:

I was floored by how unanimous and black/white the support for the Palestinian side is among them.

The View has put out the word.

Israel is a terrorist nation because they retaliated.

The View talks, women listen.

[George K]

[Copper]

I wonder how many will get shot by the Capitol Police.

[Mik]

Need a little IDF action.

[George K]

Yup. In DC (wasn't clear at first).

"Assault on a Police Officer."

Bring the popcorn.

[Jolly]

[Horace]

omg so terrifying

[Jolly]

[Mik]

So triggered by this. Where are my pearls.

[George K]

@Mik said in Effects on the political landscape?:

So triggered by this. Where are my pearls.

AOC is wearing them for the last week or so.

However, I have a fainting couch you can borrow.

[Jolly]

He'll be ok, if he just loosens his corset.

[Mik]

@Jolly said in Effects on the political landscape?:

He'll be ok, if he just loosens his corset burka.

FIFY

[LuFins Dad]

So will there be calls for Tlaib to be expelled? This was minutes before the protestors stormed the building…

How does President Biden feel about somebody in his party calling him a liar in regards to the hospital attack?

[George K]

Was this an incitement to an insurrection and potential takeover of the Capitol.

[Renauda]

@Jolly said in Effects on the political landscape?:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Effects on the political landscape?:

You're forgetting Trump - "The Jews love me. Because nobody knows as much about Israel as I do".

Abraham Accords. American Embassy in Jerusalem. Ended Isis.

Your swing...

There was a lot more to all of that than the magnificence of Donny “The Mouth” Trumpolino. And you know that very well.

One thing you did leave out was how he abandoned the USA’s Kurdish allies.

[Jolly]

You mean, after Bush and Obama? The Kurds never got what they were promised. In terms of realpolitick, the Kurds always took a backseat to the Turks.

As for what I mentioned, remind me what other U.S. presidents had those accomplishments?

[Renauda]

Tell us first, what and how Trump himself accomplished in making any of those items on your list possible.

Seems to me his bagman, Kushner, Secretary of State Pompeo and VP Mike Pence expedited the Abraham Accords through their efforts at the Warsaw Conference. Trump himself was a passenger throughout the whole process.

Embassy move to Jerusalem was set in motion 1995 under Clinton although he along with Dubya Bush and Obama deferred the move throughout their Administrations. Once again it was the initiative of Kushner and Pompeo to make the move in 2018. They accomplished it by amalgamating the Embassy staff in Tel Aviv with the Consulate in Jerusalem in May 2018. The US Ambassador to Israel however by Trump’s presidential order postponing the move in June 2018, continues to reside in Tel Aviv. Kudos again to Pompeo, on selling it the American public as a move. Until the Ambassador takes residence in Jerusalem the actual move remains “deferred”.

End of ISIS? Credit goes to Mad Dog Mattis in spearheading the US military efforts to degrade ISIS to the point it lost control of regions of Iraq and a civil war torn Syria. Once again Trump was a passenger. Sure Trump was wheeled out to declare victory over ISIS in 2019 after Baghdadi was taken out, but ISIS continued. It moved out of the Iraq/Syrian theatre and into Africa.

And yes Jolly, Trump like the others cynically abandoned the Kurds around the same time or shortly after he declared his magnificent victory.

https://www.cato.org/commentary/yes-donald-trump-dumped-kurds-we-should-not-be-shocked