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From your link, the longstanding result I reference.
In fact, Gazan frustration with Hamas governance is clear; most Gazans expressed a preference for PA administration and security officials over Hamas—the majority of Gazans (70%) supported a proposal of the PA sending “officials and security officers to Gaza to take over the administration there, with Hamas giving up separate armed units,” including 47% who strongly agreed. Nor is this a new view—this proposal has had majority support in Gaza since first polled by The Washington Institute in 2014.
wrote on 11 Nov 2023, 11:55 last edited by@jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
From your link, the longstanding result I reference.
In fact, Gazan frustration with Hamas governance is clear; most Gazans expressed a preference for PA administration and security officials over Hamas—the majority of Gazans (70%) supported a proposal of the PA sending “officials and security officers to Gaza to take over the administration there, with Hamas giving up separate armed units,” including 47% who strongly agreed. Nor is this a new view—this proposal has had majority support in Gaza since first polled by The Washington Institute in 2014.
Yes, I saw that, too, but it doesn't negate what I first posted from there. It seems Murray's point about partial responsibility still stands since Hamas enjoys at least partial support.
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wrote on 11 Nov 2023, 11:59 last edited by
Sure. And of course the Israelis are quite a bit more responsible for the actions of Israel in the West Bank.
What are we to infer from those two facts? Is there a point you wish to make?
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Sure. And of course the Israelis are quite a bit more responsible for the actions of Israel in the West Bank.
What are we to infer from those two facts? Is there a point you wish to make?
wrote on 11 Nov 2023, 13:07 last edited by@jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
Sure. And of course the Israelis are quite a bit more responsible for the actions of Israel in the West Bank.
What are we to infer from those two facts? Is there a point you wish to make?
Just that I don't think it makes any rational sense to look at the events of the past month and conclude the real crime is what's happening to the Palestinians. As such, it's weird to fixate on that argument.
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wrote on 11 Nov 2023, 13:10 last edited by
It’s true in a sense but Hamas is the perp there too. Virtually every Gazan casualty is a victim of one or two war crimes by Hamas. (1) The use of human shields and (2) not being allowed to flee.
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It’s true in a sense but Hamas is the perp there too. Virtually every Gazan casualty is a victim of one or two war crimes by Hamas. (1) The use of human shields and (2) not being allowed to flee.
wrote on 11 Nov 2023, 13:13 last edited by@jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
It’s true in a sense but Hamas is the perp there too. Virtually every Gazan casualty is a victim of one or two war crimes by Hamas. (1) The use of human shields and (2) not being allowed to flee.
Right, agreed. But within the context of consequences for Palestinians, how far off the mark is Israel between what they should do and what they are currently doing? You read the news or talk to any sufficiently sheltered liberal today and they'd tell you they're the Nazis.
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wrote on 11 Nov 2023, 13:19 last edited by
I think they’re doing more or less what they need to.
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@LuFins-Dad Word.
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wrote on 14 Nov 2023, 13:38 last edited by
Hahaha it's like he's channeling the precise inner dialogue I often have when watching a news story. "It's fashionable" is a perfect way to put it. If most of the left (libs, women, gays) went to Gaza this would be their reaction about 10 minutes in:
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@LuFins-Dad Word.
wrote on 14 Nov 2023, 13:50 last edited by George K@Mik said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
@LuFins-Dad Word.
Iowahawk comments:
"The man in the video is absolutely right. This is fashion meets fascism, tailor made for dipshits utterly lobotomized by Tik Tok and $70k/year colleges, cosplay "revolutionaries" eager to strut the catwalk their Hamas swag and mindlessly chant for a Jewish Holocaust reboot.
I'm surprised that Hugo Boss hasn't released a new line of chic $100 keffiyehs to capitalize on this new craze."
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@Mik said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
@LuFins-Dad Word.
Iowahawk comments:
"The man in the video is absolutely right. This is fashion meets fascism, tailor made for dipshits utterly lobotomized by Tik Tok and $70k/year colleges, cosplay "revolutionaries" eager to strut the catwalk their Hamas swag and mindlessly chant for a Jewish Holocaust reboot.
I'm surprised that Hugo Boss hasn't released a new line of chic $100 keffiyehs to capitalize on this new craze."
wrote on 14 Nov 2023, 15:32 last edited by@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
@Mik said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
@LuFins-Dad Word.
Iowahawk comments:
"The man in the video is absolutely right. This is fashion meets fascism, tailor made for dipshits utterly lobotomized by Tik Tok and $70k/year colleges, cosplay "revolutionaries" eager to strut the catwalk their Hamas swag and mindlessly chant for a Jewish Holocaust reboot.
I'm surprised that Hugo Boss hasn't released a new line of chic $100 keffiyehs to capitalize on this new craze."
How about Louis Vuitton? https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20210604-louis-vuitton-fendi-slammed-for-exploiting-traditional-palestinian-keffiyeh/
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@George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
@Mik said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
@LuFins-Dad Word.
Iowahawk comments:
"The man in the video is absolutely right. This is fashion meets fascism, tailor made for dipshits utterly lobotomized by Tik Tok and $70k/year colleges, cosplay "revolutionaries" eager to strut the catwalk their Hamas swag and mindlessly chant for a Jewish Holocaust reboot.
I'm surprised that Hugo Boss hasn't released a new line of chic $100 keffiyehs to capitalize on this new craze."
How about Louis Vuitton? https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20210604-louis-vuitton-fendi-slammed-for-exploiting-traditional-palestinian-keffiyeh/
wrote on 14 Nov 2023, 15:57 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
How about Louis Vuitton?
That is Babylon Bee worthy. When satire precedes history.
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Jesus
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wrote on 15 Nov 2023, 18:32 last edited by Horace
For decades now, there has never been meaningful pushback in America against the facile virtue signaling of oppression narratives. Imagine a 30 year old confronting for the first time in their lives, the notion that virtue, when it comes to political leanings, can be nuanced and complicated. Actually I think a lot of 60 year olds have never confronted that. The overriding idea holding sway over all virtue conversations in America has been, "do you want to support oppressed people - like slaves, for instance - or not?" Now the answer to that question is finally interesting.
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wrote on 15 Nov 2023, 18:37 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:
That school needs to immediately lose all Federal funding and state and local should consider doing likewise.
The US Flag should not be removed for anything.
The Brad
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