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  • J jon-nyc
    2 Nov 2023, 15:07

    Makes you wonder if/when the MAGA crowd will realize that being anti-Hamas and Iran while being pro-Russia isn’t really a sustainable combination.

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    Copper
    wrote on 2 Nov 2023, 15:12 last edited by
    #190

    @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

    Makes you wonder if/when the MAGA crowd will realize

    The MAGA crowd is generally very well educated and well informed.

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      Horace
      wrote on 2 Nov 2023, 15:14 last edited by
      #191

      "Pro Russia" is a tribal strawman anyway, obviously.

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      • C Copper
        2 Nov 2023, 15:12

        @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

        Makes you wonder if/when the MAGA crowd will realize

        The MAGA crowd is generally very well educated and well informed.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 2 Nov 2023, 15:21 last edited by Renauda 11 Feb 2023, 15:29
        #192

        @Copper

        The MAGA crowd is generally occasionally very well educated and well or even somewhat informed.

        FIFY

        Elbows up!

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        • H Horace
          2 Nov 2023, 15:14

          "Pro Russia" is a tribal strawman anyway, obviously.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 2 Nov 2023, 20:45 last edited by
          #193

          @Horace said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

          "Pro Russia" is a tribal strawman anyway, obviously.

          Ok, replace with “support pro-Russia policies”. The point stands.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • J jon-nyc
            2 Nov 2023, 20:45

            @Horace said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

            "Pro Russia" is a tribal strawman anyway, obviously.

            Ok, replace with “support pro-Russia policies”. The point stands.

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            Horace
            wrote on 2 Nov 2023, 21:41 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

            @Horace said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

            "Pro Russia" is a tribal strawman anyway, obviously.

            Ok, replace with “support pro-Russia policies”. The point stands.

            It's not much of a point if the policy is intended to be pro-USA.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 02:13 last edited by
              #195

              That seems nonsensical. But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt if you’d like to explain. Maybe I’m missing something.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • J jon-nyc
                3 Nov 2023, 02:13

                That seems nonsensical. But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt if you’d like to explain. Maybe I’m missing something.

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                Horace
                wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 02:21 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                That seems nonsensical. But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt if you’d like to explain. Maybe I’m missing something.

                You can be specific about the pro-Russia policies you're referring to. If their intent is to support the usa, with an incidental side effect of being advantageous to Russia as compared to an opposing policy, then a framing that the policy is pro-russia, would be rhetorically disingenuous.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 02:35 last edited by
                  #197

                  I conceded your point and changed ‘being pro-Russia’ with ‘supporting pro-Russia policies’. The former implies motive the latter just effect.

                  Again the point stands.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 02:42 last edited by
                    #198

                    Your implications serve your technically standing point, but they are not a generally accepted interpretation of how that language works. If a policy drafted by a politician is said to be "pro-something or other", the intent will fairly be inferred. Your point stands, as long as we limit the audience to people who don't make the common assumptions that topple it. Fair enough.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 03:37 last edited by Renauda 11 Mar 2023, 03:56
                      #199

                      Okay.

                      Policies that serve or play into the interests of (insert name of country) that are detrimental to US ______ interests.

                      Now, move along.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • R Renauda
                        3 Nov 2023, 03:37

                        Okay.

                        Policies that serve or play into the interests of (insert name of country) that are detrimental to US ______ interests.

                        Now, move along.

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                        Horace
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                          George K
                          wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 12:30 last edited by George K 11 Mar 2023, 12:31
                          #201

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                          Someone commented on the pendant on her neck...

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 12:38 last edited by
                            #202

                            Like the lady from Apple, time to update the resume.

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                            • T taiwan_girl
                              3 Nov 2023, 12:38

                              Like the lady from Apple, time to update the resume.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 12:40 last edited by
                              #203

                              @taiwan_girl said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                              the lady from Apple

                              Is no longer employed there.

                              How is that pendant any different from wearing a swastika?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 12:42 last edited by Doctor Phibes 11 Mar 2023, 12:43
                                #204

                                What I don't understand is why they post this stuff. Is it really worth risking your career over an internet post? Are they so oblivious of opinions outside their bubble that they fail to see how offensive this stuff is to a majority of people?

                                I was only joking

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                                • D Doctor Phibes
                                  3 Nov 2023, 12:42

                                  What I don't understand is why they post this stuff. Is it really worth risking your career over an internet post? Are they so oblivious of opinions outside their bubble that they fail to see how offensive this stuff is to a majority of people?

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 12:45 last edited by George K 11 Mar 2023, 12:46
                                  #205

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                  What I don't understand is why they post this stuff. Is it really worth risking your career over an internet post? Are they so oblivious of opinions outside their bubble that they fail to see how offensive this stuff is to a majority of people?

                                  Exactly. If you look at my FB profile, you'll see a remarkable amount of silliness. NO politics, nothing controversial. I chose my username so that patients would have a hard(er) time finding me, and if they did, there's no "there" there.

                                  The lack of judgment in these cases makes you question their overall judgment.

                                  ETA: Also, when at work, it was rare that we had any kind of discussion bordering on politics. When you spend 5 hours at the OR table doing heart surgery, it's best to just get along, 'cos it won't be the last time you spend 5 hours with that person.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    89th
                                    wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 12:49 last edited by
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                                    Total side note, I cringe when I hear 'biggest attack on Jews since the holocaust'. Yes, it seems that is absolutely true. But let's be realistic about how it really compares to the Holocaust.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 12:52 last edited by
                                      #207

                                      Except the Holocaust never happened, in these people’s minds. So this is the biggest attack on Jews in 300 years!

                                      The Brad

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                                      • L LuFins Dad
                                        3 Nov 2023, 12:52

                                        Except the Holocaust never happened, in these people’s minds. So this is the biggest attack on Jews in 300 years!

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 13:02 last edited by
                                        #208

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                        Except the Holocaust never happened, in these people’s minds. So this is the biggest attack on Jews in 300 years!

                                        Also, what we're seeing is much more like Germany in 1933 than in 1940-45.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 3 Nov 2023, 13:16 last edited by Doctor Phibes 11 Mar 2023, 13:16
                                          #209

                                          This current situation is nothing like the holocaust, or WW2 for that matter. It's a completely different type of conflict.

                                          I was only joking

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