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    George K
    wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 22:11 last edited by
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    Yes, the morality of the Dresden bombing has been questioned, but only in hindsight.

    Yet the Beeb never asked that question at the time. And that's my point. I don't think your explanation that time/conflict differences gives a pass. Either it's moral or it's not, and the BBC questioned the morality of the Israelis, but not of its own government.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 22:11 last edited by
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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • D Doctor Phibes
        22 Oct 2023, 20:21

        @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

        "How is making life more difficult for the citizens of Berlin something that helps the British?"

        There's a question that the BBC probably never asked.

        I think the necessity of the carpet bombing of Dresden was something that was questioned. My dad had friends who had taken part in it, and they had indicated that were mixed feelings about it even amongst the people flying the aircraft.

        It's certainly been questioned since the war ended.

        Did the foreign press get a chance to ask the British government about their war thinking? Because CNN isn't Israeli, after all. I'm not sure the two conflicts or time-periods are really comparable, but I do believe that the media should be asking difficult questions of all sides. If something is easily defensible, then it should be easy to answer the question.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 22:30 last edited by Renauda
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        @Doctor-Phibes

        I think the necessity of the carpet bombing of Dresden was something that was questioned. My dad had friends who had taken part in it, and they had indicated that were mixed feelings about it even amongst the people flying the aircraft.

        It's certainly been questioned since the war ended.

        As I pointed out to Jolly yesterday, Dresden was a legitimate target for bombing. Not only was it a major rail hub into the east but it also had over 120 business that manufactured or assembled war material for the German army. The city was much more to German war effort than porcelain finery and dolls as the revisionist historians go to lengths portray it.

        There was some public debate about the RCAF’s role in the bombing of Dresden back in the 80’s or 90’s. The CBC even did a documentary series on it and the RCAF under Bomber Harris’ command.

        Elbows up!

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          George K
          wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 22:34 last edited by George K
          #169

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Horace
            wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 22:40 last edited by
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            If nothing else, we can see that human thoughts and feels are a product of cultural programming. Not likely that these people are measurably pathological. Just programmed differently.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 22:44 last edited by
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              I'm a bit surprised at the medical professionals and their attitudes. Are we admitting the wrong people to medical and professional schools?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                George K
                wrote on 22 Oct 2023, 23:50 last edited by
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                Dr. Al-Abeeb's page at the practice...

                https://www.marcnevinsdmd.com/our-team/dr-zena-al-adeeb/

                Is gone.

                She trained at BU, graduating in 2006.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  22 Oct 2023, 22:11

                  Yes, the morality of the Dresden bombing has been questioned, but only in hindsight.

                  Yet the Beeb never asked that question at the time. And that's my point. I don't think your explanation that time/conflict differences gives a pass. Either it's moral or it's not, and the BBC questioned the morality of the Israelis, but not of its own government.

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 23 Oct 2023, 00:12 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                  @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                  Yes, the morality of the Dresden bombing has been questioned, but only in hindsight.

                  Yet the Beeb never asked that question at the time. And that's my point. I don't think your explanation that time/conflict differences gives a pass. Either it's moral or it's not, and the BBC questioned the morality of the Israelis, but not of its own government.

                  The clip we were referring to was CNN rather than the BBC, but ok.

                  However, it's really not up to the BBC or any news organization to decide what is moral or not. It is however their responsibility to ask questions of our governments. Just declaring a consensus isn't particularly democratic.

                  And in more recent conflicts than WW2 the BBC have asked questions of their own government. The modern BBC is considerably more likely to ask difficult questions than it was in the 1940's.

                  And speaking of questions, both American news organizations and American citizens were happy to ask questions and in some cases express opinions regarding the British conduct during the Northern Ireland conflict. How is that different from this situation, other than in scale, and admittedly the level of horror involved?

                  I was only joking

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                    George K
                    wrote on 23 Oct 2023, 01:02 last edited by
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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 23 Oct 2023, 01:04 last edited by
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                      It is entirely true.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        bachophile
                        wrote on 28 Oct 2023, 19:37 last edited by
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                        That’s it. no more a-whoring for me.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 01:07 last edited by
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                          They said explicit...solidarity.😄

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 18:15 last edited by
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                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 18:22 last edited by
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                              Foul

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                                28 Oct 2023, 19:37

                                That’s it. no more a-whoring for me.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 18:59 last edited by
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                                @bachophile said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                That’s it. no more a-whoring for me.

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                                Pussies.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 19:30 last edited by
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                                  Is it even real?

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    29 Oct 2023, 18:15

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 20:30 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc

                                    More on the unfolding or attempted pogrom in Dagestan:

                                    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/10/29/anti-israeli-mob-storms-airport-in-russias-dagestan-a82926

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 20:45 last edited by
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                                      Apparently it’s just a misunderstanding. They seem to think Hamas is on the plane.

                                      Some of the signs held by demonstrators read “Child killers have no place in Dagestan”

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 30 Oct 2023, 02:50 last edited by jon-nyc
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                                        $2Billion dollars. Maybe we’ll see a house committee investigate. lol.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 01:50 last edited by
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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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