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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #166

    Yes, the morality of the Dresden bombing has been questioned, but only in hindsight.

    Yet the Beeb never asked that question at the time. And that's my point. I don't think your explanation that time/conflict differences gives a pass. Either it's moral or it's not, and the BBC questioned the morality of the Israelis, but not of its own government.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #167

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

        "How is making life more difficult for the citizens of Berlin something that helps the British?"

        There's a question that the BBC probably never asked.

        I think the necessity of the carpet bombing of Dresden was something that was questioned. My dad had friends who had taken part in it, and they had indicated that were mixed feelings about it even amongst the people flying the aircraft.

        It's certainly been questioned since the war ended.

        Did the foreign press get a chance to ask the British government about their war thinking? Because CNN isn't Israeli, after all. I'm not sure the two conflicts or time-periods are really comparable, but I do believe that the media should be asking difficult questions of all sides. If something is easily defensible, then it should be easy to answer the question.

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        Renauda
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        #168

        @Doctor-Phibes

        I think the necessity of the carpet bombing of Dresden was something that was questioned. My dad had friends who had taken part in it, and they had indicated that were mixed feelings about it even amongst the people flying the aircraft.

        It's certainly been questioned since the war ended.

        As I pointed out to Jolly yesterday, Dresden was a legitimate target for bombing. Not only was it a major rail hub into the east but it also had over 120 business that manufactured or assembled war material for the German army. The city was much more to German war effort than porcelain finery and dolls as the revisionist historians go to lengths portray it.

        There was some public debate about the RCAF’s role in the bombing of Dresden back in the 80’s or 90’s. The CBC even did a documentary series on it and the RCAF under Bomber Harris’ command.

        Elbows up!

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by George K
          #169

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            #170

            If nothing else, we can see that human thoughts and feels are a product of cultural programming. Not likely that these people are measurably pathological. Just programmed differently.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #171

              I'm a bit surprised at the medical professionals and their attitudes. Are we admitting the wrong people to medical and professional schools?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #172

                Dr. Al-Abeeb's page at the practice...

                https://www.marcnevinsdmd.com/our-team/dr-zena-al-adeeb/

                Is gone.

                She trained at BU, graduating in 2006.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  Yes, the morality of the Dresden bombing has been questioned, but only in hindsight.

                  Yet the Beeb never asked that question at the time. And that's my point. I don't think your explanation that time/conflict differences gives a pass. Either it's moral or it's not, and the BBC questioned the morality of the Israelis, but not of its own government.

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                  #173

                  @George-K said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                  Yes, the morality of the Dresden bombing has been questioned, but only in hindsight.

                  Yet the Beeb never asked that question at the time. And that's my point. I don't think your explanation that time/conflict differences gives a pass. Either it's moral or it's not, and the BBC questioned the morality of the Israelis, but not of its own government.

                  The clip we were referring to was CNN rather than the BBC, but ok.

                  However, it's really not up to the BBC or any news organization to decide what is moral or not. It is however their responsibility to ask questions of our governments. Just declaring a consensus isn't particularly democratic.

                  And in more recent conflicts than WW2 the BBC have asked questions of their own government. The modern BBC is considerably more likely to ask difficult questions than it was in the 1940's.

                  And speaking of questions, both American news organizations and American citizens were happy to ask questions and in some cases express opinions regarding the British conduct during the Northern Ireland conflict. How is that different from this situation, other than in scale, and admittedly the level of horror involved?

                  I was only joking

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #174

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #175

                      It is entirely true.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • bachophileB Offline
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                        bachophile
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                        #176

                        That’s it. no more a-whoring for me.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
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                          #177

                          They said explicit...solidarity.😄

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • jon-nycJ Offline
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                            jon-nyc
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                            #178

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              Copper
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #179

                              Foul

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                              • bachophileB bachophile

                                That’s it. no more a-whoring for me.

                                2FAAFFE4-9567-4CAA-889E-D6FB76490504.jpeg

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                                @bachophile said in More strange and/or foul reactions:

                                That’s it. no more a-whoring for me.

                                2FAAFFE4-9567-4CAA-889E-D6FB76490504.jpeg

                                Pussies.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #181

                                  Is it even real?

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    RenaudaR Offline
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                                    Renauda
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                                    #182

                                    @jon-nyc

                                    More on the unfolding or attempted pogrom in Dagestan:

                                    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/10/29/anti-israeli-mob-storms-airport-in-russias-dagestan-a82926

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      Apparently it’s just a misunderstanding. They seem to think Hamas is on the plane.

                                      Some of the signs held by demonstrators read “Child killers have no place in Dagestan”

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #184

                                        $2Billion dollars. Maybe we’ll see a house committee investigate. lol.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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