Hamas attacks Israel

[George K]

[George K]

[George K]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/11/25/world/israel-hamas-hostages-gaza-war#a-disfigured-woman-whose-case-has-become-well-known-is-among-the-palestinians-released

[jon-nyc]

Seeing reports of an Israeli proposal to extend the ceasefire more days provided at least 10 hostages are released a day.

[jon-nyc]

Would be natural to see Hamas counter-propose a smaller number. Imagine the political pressure that could place on the Israeli government.

[jon-nyc]

Hamas replies:

“The Islamic Resistance Movement Hamas seeks to extend the truce after the 4-day period ends, through serious efforts to increase the number of those released from imprisonment as stipulated in the humanitarian cease-fire agreement,” the group said in a statement.

[George K]

Hay @bachophile !

What's the feeling over there lately?

[bachophile]

Bleak. Happy of course about the hostage release but still very post trauma and still understanding that there is still a lot of fighting ahead.

In other news, Elon Musk dropped in for a visit.

[George K]

@bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:

Elon Musk dropped in for a visit.

And he said that Hamas must be eliminated.

[George K]

Wasn't there a "cease-fire" on October 6?

[jon-nyc]

Interesting graphic from NYT.

[89th]

Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

[George K]

[jon-nyc]

@89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

Some were “administrative detainees”, held without charges, trials, or even access to the allegations against them.

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

@89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

Keep in mind we are talking about Hostages (Hamas) vs Prisoners (Israel). This isn't exactly a hostage swap or prisoner swap. Aka... An innocent Israeli girl in exchange for an (accused) rapist or murderer, is not exactly a swap.

Some were “administrative detainees”, held without charges, trials, or even access to the allegations against them.

Why does Israel do this? What's in it for them, given the horrible optics?

[Mik]

Good question.

[George K]

[jon-nyc]

Ok between Zalensky and now Israeli leaders getting the appellation, we can safely say “Nazi” now means “someone I really don’t like”.

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

Zalensky and now Israeli leaders

Yeah, Jews as Nazis.

[Horace]

I’m old enough to remember when the comparison was made right here in America.