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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    taiwan_girl
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    #757

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hamas-tunnels-piercing-a-battleground-beneath-gaza/

    Interesting article about the tunnels.

    alt text

    Red are identified tunnels. Blue are destroyed tunnels. (Much easier to see the drawing if you click and then expand)

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hamas-tunnels-piercing-a-battleground-beneath-gaza/

      Interesting article about the tunnels.

      alt text

      Red are identified tunnels. Blue are destroyed tunnels. (Much easier to see the drawing if you click and then expand)

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      @taiwan_girl said in Hamas attacks Israel:

      Interesting article about the tunnels.

      Boston Dynamics, FTW!

      image.jpeg

      At $75K each, that's pretty cheap considering what they do - of course, all the mapping stuff adds to the price. Still a bargain.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG Offline
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        #759

        The Gazan Children

        https://freebeacon.com/national-security/children-as-young-as-10-took-part-in-hamass-oct-7-terror-attack-survivors-say/

        EILAT, Israel—Eran Smilansky, a 28-year-old potato farmer, watched Gazan children go from house to house in his kibbutz on Oct. 7. Hamas terrorists followed. The boys laughed as the gunmen shot or dragged away Israeli families.

        "They were like young, young kids," said Smilansky, who defended his home from terrorists for more than six hours that day. "They were going in front of the terrorists, laughing with their friends and looking very calm. I remember thinking, What the fuck?"

        Smilansky was one of a dozen survivors of the Nir Oz massacre who told the Washington Free Beacon they witnessed boys or women from the Gaza Strip looting the kibbutz, helping the armed terrorists, and apparently enjoying themselves. The youngest children were around 10 years old, according to several of the survivors, one of whom provided photographs of some of the women and children he saw. The survivors spoke at a hotel in Eilat, Israel's Red Sea resort town, where most of them have been temporarily relocated.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • B Offline
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          blondie
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          #760

          @George .. I’m just going to come out & say it: Kids from generations of parents from war torn countries carry their own special baggage. It’s called hate. It’s with them forever.

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          • B blondie

            @George .. I’m just going to come out & say it: Kids from generations of parents from war torn countries carry their own special baggage. It’s called hate. It’s with them forever.

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            George K
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            #761

            @blondie said in Hamas attacks Israel:

            Kids from generations of parents from war torn countries carry their own special baggage.

            Yes, but, only the kids who actually experience it. My parents are from war-torn countries. I have baggage, but not that kind. Same can be said of @Doctor-Phibes and others here.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              #762

              I went to school with a lot of Polish and Ukrainian kids whose parents immigrated here after the war. In university I knew a lot of young Poles who had immigrated here as teenagers.

              The baggage was markedly different in each case.

              In high school, 99.9% of the Ukrainian kids militantly despised the USSR, but had some sympathy for Russian people as they viewed them as victims of communism like their parents. The Polish kids whose parents were from in eastern regions of Poland invaded by the Russians in 1939, then deported to the USSR for the duration of the war hated all things Russian. At the same time, both the Ukrainians and Poles were only passively contemptuous of German kids whose parents immigrated here from Germany post 1945.

              In university the pattern remained much the same with exception of Polish kids who came here as teens in 60’s and 70’s. They were, at least until the Soludarity movement started to take hold, quite favourable or at least indifferent towards the USSR and Russians but without exception bore unrelenting animosity, even hatred, toward all things German.

              So I yeah would tend to agree with Blondie’s post.

              Elbows up!

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              • George KG George K

                @blondie said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                Kids from generations of parents from war torn countries carry their own special baggage.

                Yes, but, only the kids who actually experience it. My parents are from war-torn countries. I have baggage, but not that kind. Same can be said of @Doctor-Phibes and others here.

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                @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                Yes, but, only the kids who actually experience it. My parents are from war-torn countries. I have baggage, but not that kind. Same can be said of @Doctor-Phibes and others here.

                I don't think you can really describe my parents upbringing as war-torn. My dad lived through the London blitz, but that was nothing compared to what happened to those living in continental Europe, particularly in the east.

                If I have any baggage it's self-inflicted 😀

                I was only joking

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                  #764

                  https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/biden-says-gaza-hospitals-must-be-protected-2023-11-14/

                  https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/people-trapped-inside-gazas-al-shifa-planning-bury-dead-bodies-2023-11-14/

                  Gazans trapped in Al-Shifa hospital dig mass grave to bury the dead.

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/biden-says-gaza-hospitals-must-be-protected-2023-11-14/

                    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/people-trapped-inside-gazas-al-shifa-planning-bury-dead-bodies-2023-11-14/

                    Gazans trapped in Al-Shifa hospital dig mass grave to bury the dead.

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                    #765

                    @Axtremus
                    A horrific monument to Hamas’s war crimes.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      #766

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        George K
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                        #767

                        @jon-nyc it's going to be a mess.

                        Regardless of how "good" the outcome is, it will be condemned.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          None of which belies it’s necessity.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            #769

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #770

                              Don't put terrorist offices in hospitals.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #771

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #772

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
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                                    #773

                                    Justin Castreaux:

                                    Bibi:

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Renauda
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                                      #774

                                      The Dauphin Trudeau, like Macron, is quite prepared to surrender. To be expected from a perennial lightweight in foreign policy matters. He will not remain around much longer on the political landscape.

                                      But if you think Trudeau is bad, you should hear the gibberish that falls out of the mouth of his Minister of Foreign Affairs, Melanie Joly. As a friend of mine in Ottawa says, “she never fails to underwhelm. I have no idea how she got into law school let alone graduate from it.”

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        Bibi is right:

                                        While Israel is doing everything to keep civilians out of harm’s way, Hamas is doing everything to keep them in harm’s way.

                                        It's essentially that simple, if you add on Israel's right and duty to defend and protect her citizens. It sucks, but the only other solution is some sort of international coalition to go in and weed Hamas out, hold them accountable, and install a better government. Odds of that happening?

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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