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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 10 Nov 2023, 18:06 last edited by
    #739

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      Mik
      wrote on 10 Nov 2023, 18:56 last edited by
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      Good sign.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        George K
        wrote on 10 Nov 2023, 19:52 last edited by
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        Granted, the fact that Gaza is small is advantageous, but doesn't it seem like the IDF is making rapid, rapid progress? After a couple of weeks "softening things up," they seem to be getting down to serious business.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          10 Nov 2023, 18:06

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 10 Nov 2023, 20:12 last edited by LuFins Dad 11 Oct 2023, 20:13
          #742

          @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

          Read the first reply.

          The Brad

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            George K
            wrote on 10 Nov 2023, 20:48 last edited by George K 11 Oct 2023, 20:49
            #743

            Ms. Andrews explains.

            I was just notified by my assistant that a “group from Ohio” called my office threatening that I was posting “antisemitic” statements on social media.

            I wondered how long it would take.

            BTW. It is insanity to imply that someone who has devoted much of their life to #humanrights is prejudiced against anyone for their race, gender, religion, or nationality.

            Criticizing the State of Israel for violating international law and committing decades of human rights atrocities is not #antisemitic.

            Her profile says that she's an "Attorney. Master of Laws in International Human Rights. Northwestern Pritzker School of Law. "

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 10 Nov 2023, 20:55 last edited by
              #744

              What international laws has Israel violated?

              The Brad

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 11 Nov 2023, 10:39 last edited by
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                Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention every minute you’ve been alive.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  11 Nov 2023, 10:39

                  Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention every minute you’ve been alive.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 11 Nov 2023, 13:29 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                  Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention every minute you’ve been alive.

                  Screenshot 2023-11-11 at 7.28.37 AM.png

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    11 Nov 2023, 10:39

                    Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention every minute you’ve been alive.

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                    Wim
                    wrote on 11 Nov 2023, 16:13 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc What I thougt as well.

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                      Rainman
                      wrote on 11 Nov 2023, 16:32 last edited by
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                      Jon (or anyone), in terms of the U.N., what or who are "protected persons" under their Articles?

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                        George K
                        wrote on 11 Nov 2023, 17:01 last edited by George K 11 Nov 2023, 17:02
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                        Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited,

                        Is Israel doing that?

                        (BTW - a lot of silence on what's happening in Pakistan, no?)

                        Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.

                        Israel IS doing that. Actually, no. The evacuation is being PREVENTED by Hamas - civilians being shot as they try to evacuate.

                        The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene,

                        Hard to do when the infrastructure, despite billions of dollars poured in are diverted to military resources.

                        The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.

                        Israel is not doing that, is it?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 11 Nov 2023, 17:13 last edited by
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                          'Most of the children in my family photo are dead'
                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-67273969

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                          • G George K
                            10 Nov 2023, 19:52

                            Granted, the fact that Gaza is small is advantageous, but doesn't it seem like the IDF is making rapid, rapid progress? After a couple of weeks "softening things up," they seem to be getting down to serious business.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 11 Nov 2023, 17:22 last edited by
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                            @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                            Granted, the fact that Gaza is small is advantageous, but doesn't it seem like the IDF is making rapid, rapid progress? After a couple of weeks "softening things up," they seem to be getting down to serious business.

                            They've had a very long time to plan for this , and I'd be shocked if they had not done so.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 11 Nov 2023, 17:23 last edited by
                              #752

                              Ahhh, the settlements again. I’m not a lawyer, but I do question the description of occupation when there was no forced transfer by the Israeli government or deportations excepting during the actual war.

                              The Brad

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 12 Nov 2023, 19:59 last edited by
                                #753

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  12 Nov 2023, 19:59

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 12 Nov 2023, 21:10 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc I would think there are records of such communications.

                                  If so...that's bad, very bad.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 12 Nov 2023, 21:24 last edited by
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                                    Nobody ever said the Israeli intelligence services were any good.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 13 Nov 2023, 00:31 last edited by
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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 13 Nov 2023, 09:15 last edited by taiwan_girl
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                                        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hamas-tunnels-piercing-a-battleground-beneath-gaza/

                                        Interesting article about the tunnels.

                                        alt text

                                        Red are identified tunnels. Blue are destroyed tunnels. (Much easier to see the drawing if you click and then expand)

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                                        • T taiwan_girl
                                          13 Nov 2023, 09:15

                                          https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hamas-tunnels-piercing-a-battleground-beneath-gaza/

                                          Interesting article about the tunnels.

                                          alt text

                                          Red are identified tunnels. Blue are destroyed tunnels. (Much easier to see the drawing if you click and then expand)

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 13 Nov 2023, 12:28 last edited by
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                                          @taiwan_girl said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                          Interesting article about the tunnels.

                                          Boston Dynamics, FTW!

                                          image.jpeg

                                          At $75K each, that's pretty cheap considering what they do - of course, all the mapping stuff adds to the price. Still a bargain.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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