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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #743

    Ms. Andrews explains.

    I was just notified by my assistant that a “group from Ohio” called my office threatening that I was posting “antisemitic” statements on social media.

    I wondered how long it would take.

    BTW. It is insanity to imply that someone who has devoted much of their life to #humanrights is prejudiced against anyone for their race, gender, religion, or nationality.

    Criticizing the State of Israel for violating international law and committing decades of human rights atrocities is not #antisemitic.

    Her profile says that she's an "Attorney. Master of Laws in International Human Rights. Northwestern Pritzker School of Law. "

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #744

      What international laws has Israel violated?

      The Brad

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #745

        Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention every minute you’ve been alive.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention every minute you’ve been alive.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #746

          @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

          Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention every minute you’ve been alive.

          Screenshot 2023-11-11 at 7.28.37 AM.png

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention every minute you’ve been alive.

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            Wim
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            #747

            @jon-nyc What I thougt as well.

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            • RainmanR Offline
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              Rainman
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              Jon (or anyone), in terms of the U.N., what or who are "protected persons" under their Articles?

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by George K
                #749

                Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited,

                Is Israel doing that?

                (BTW - a lot of silence on what's happening in Pakistan, no?)

                Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.

                Israel IS doing that. Actually, no. The evacuation is being PREVENTED by Hamas - civilians being shot as they try to evacuate.

                The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene,

                Hard to do when the infrastructure, despite billions of dollars poured in are diverted to military resources.

                The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.

                Israel is not doing that, is it?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • AxtremusA Offline
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                  #750

                  'Most of the children in my family photo are dead'
                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-67273969

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                  • George KG George K

                    Granted, the fact that Gaza is small is advantageous, but doesn't it seem like the IDF is making rapid, rapid progress? After a couple of weeks "softening things up," they seem to be getting down to serious business.

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                    Mik
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                    #751

                    @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                    Granted, the fact that Gaza is small is advantageous, but doesn't it seem like the IDF is making rapid, rapid progress? After a couple of weeks "softening things up," they seem to be getting down to serious business.

                    They've had a very long time to plan for this , and I'd be shocked if they had not done so.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      #752

                      Ahhh, the settlements again. I’m not a lawyer, but I do question the description of occupation when there was no forced transfer by the Israeli government or deportations excepting during the actual war.

                      The Brad

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #753

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                          George K
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                          @jon-nyc I would think there are records of such communications.

                          If so...that's bad, very bad.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Horace
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                            #755

                            Nobody ever said the Israeli intelligence services were any good.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                taiwan_girl
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                                #757

                                https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hamas-tunnels-piercing-a-battleground-beneath-gaza/

                                Interesting article about the tunnels.

                                alt text

                                Red are identified tunnels. Blue are destroyed tunnels. (Much easier to see the drawing if you click and then expand)

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hamas-tunnels-piercing-a-battleground-beneath-gaza/

                                  Interesting article about the tunnels.

                                  alt text

                                  Red are identified tunnels. Blue are destroyed tunnels. (Much easier to see the drawing if you click and then expand)

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  @taiwan_girl said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                  Interesting article about the tunnels.

                                  Boston Dynamics, FTW!

                                  image.jpeg

                                  At $75K each, that's pretty cheap considering what they do - of course, all the mapping stuff adds to the price. Still a bargain.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    The Gazan Children

                                    https://freebeacon.com/national-security/children-as-young-as-10-took-part-in-hamass-oct-7-terror-attack-survivors-say/

                                    EILAT, Israel—Eran Smilansky, a 28-year-old potato farmer, watched Gazan children go from house to house in his kibbutz on Oct. 7. Hamas terrorists followed. The boys laughed as the gunmen shot or dragged away Israeli families.

                                    "They were like young, young kids," said Smilansky, who defended his home from terrorists for more than six hours that day. "They were going in front of the terrorists, laughing with their friends and looking very calm. I remember thinking, What the fuck?"

                                    Smilansky was one of a dozen survivors of the Nir Oz massacre who told the Washington Free Beacon they witnessed boys or women from the Gaza Strip looting the kibbutz, helping the armed terrorists, and apparently enjoying themselves. The youngest children were around 10 years old, according to several of the survivors, one of whom provided photographs of some of the women and children he saw. The survivors spoke at a hotel in Eilat, Israel's Red Sea resort town, where most of them have been temporarily relocated.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      blondie
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                                      #760

                                      @George .. I’m just going to come out & say it: Kids from generations of parents from war torn countries carry their own special baggage. It’s called hate. It’s with them forever.

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                                      • B blondie

                                        @George .. I’m just going to come out & say it: Kids from generations of parents from war torn countries carry their own special baggage. It’s called hate. It’s with them forever.

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #761

                                        @blondie said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                        Kids from generations of parents from war torn countries carry their own special baggage.

                                        Yes, but, only the kids who actually experience it. My parents are from war-torn countries. I have baggage, but not that kind. Same can be said of @Doctor-Phibes and others here.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Renauda
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                                          #762

                                          I went to school with a lot of Polish and Ukrainian kids whose parents immigrated here after the war. In university I knew a lot of young Poles who had immigrated here as teenagers.

                                          The baggage was markedly different in each case.

                                          In high school, 99.9% of the Ukrainian kids militantly despised the USSR, but had some sympathy for Russian people as they viewed them as victims of communism like their parents. The Polish kids whose parents were from in eastern regions of Poland invaded by the Russians in 1939, then deported to the USSR for the duration of the war hated all things Russian. At the same time, both the Ukrainians and Poles were only passively contemptuous of German kids whose parents immigrated here from Germany post 1945.

                                          In university the pattern remained much the same with exception of Polish kids who came here as teens in 60’s and 70’s. They were, at least until the Soludarity movement started to take hold, quite favourable or at least indifferent towards the USSR and Russians but without exception bore unrelenting animosity, even hatred, toward all things German.

                                          So I yeah would tend to agree with Blondie’s post.

                                          Elbows up!

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