Hamas attacks Israel
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wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 13:53 last edited by
LOL: Russa, RUSSIA, calls for a cease-fire.
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wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 13:58 last edited by
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You think this is about stopping a Saudi-Israeli deal? Or something to do with internal politics?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/07/israel-gaza-rocket-attack-hamas/
wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 14:31 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
You think this is about stopping a Saudi-Israeli deal? Or something to do with internal politics?
Other acts of provocation that led to the attack as a retaliation?
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wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 14:34 last edited by
@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:
I've posted from this guy's feed before.
Think there's anything to it?
This guy may blame Russia, but even if Russia wants to create chaos, Hamas still has to actively participate to get to this point.
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Netanyahu will meet Biden and Macron tonight
Huh? Where? Surely he’s in Israel or urgently on his way.https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-762113
A phone call between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US President Joe Biden has been scheduled in light of the current attack on Israel, according to Israeli media.
Netanyahu is also scheduled to talk with French President Emmanuel Macron.wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 15:06 last edited by@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Netanyahu will meet Biden and Macron tonight
Huh? Where? Surely he’s in Israel or urgently on his way.https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-762113
A phone call between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US President Joe Biden has been scheduled in light of the current attack on Israel, according to Israeli media.
Netanyahu is also scheduled to talk with French President Emmanuel Macron.They should say talk with, not meet with.
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@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Netanyahu will meet Biden and Macron tonight
Huh? Where? Surely he’s in Israel or urgently on his way.https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-762113
A phone call between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US President Joe Biden has been scheduled in light of the current attack on Israel, according to Israeli media.
Netanyahu is also scheduled to talk with French President Emmanuel Macron.They should say talk with, not meet with.
wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 15:15 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Netanyahu will meet Biden and Macron tonight
Huh? Where? Surely he’s in Israel or urgently on his way.https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-762113
A phone call between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US President Joe Biden has been scheduled in light of the current attack on Israel, according to Israeli media.
Netanyahu is also scheduled to talk with French President Emmanuel Macron.They should say talk with, not meet with.
That might be a lexical slide due to the pandemic. People started to use "meet" in quotes to describe video calls, and I've been noticing more and more people saying fuck it to the quotes and just saying meet.
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wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 15:22 last edited by
Thought for the day?
Look at what $6B will buy!
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wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 16:24 last edited by Renauda 10 Jul 2023, 16:25
@George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:
I've posted from this guy's feed before.
Think there's anything to it?
It’s possible however I believe they could have been trained by other source just as easily. Don’t forget that in the turmoil of the Syrian civil war there were not only Russians but Muslim “volunteers” from all over who had received military training from abroad. However in the case of Hamas, the Chechens come immediately to mind since they are Sunnis and therefore closer to Hamas than say, Hezbollah which is Shi’ite.
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wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 16:24 last edited by George K 10 Jul 2023, 16:25
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wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 17:18 last edited by
Well, it quiets the opposition for a while but this is one of the biggest Israeli intelligence failures in decades and it’s on his watch.
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Well, it quiets the opposition for a while but this is one of the biggest Israeli intelligence failures in decades and it’s on his watch.
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wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 17:31 last edited by
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wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 17:42 last edited by
- It is $6B.
- Qatar is/has released it to Iran, if I understand correctly.
- It is supposedly for humanitarian aid. If you believe that, stand on your head and wiggle your ears.
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wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 18:00 last edited by jon-nyc 10 Jul 2023, 18:00
You understand incorrectly. It is held in restricted accounts in Qatar, spending is limited to humanitarian purposes and the international community, including the US, has oversight of how they get spent. None have been spent yet, so even the fungibility argument won’t work yet.
I’m afraid this war just might not be very useful as a domestic political cudgel. Heck, at some point you might just have to comment on the war itself.
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You understand incorrectly. It is held in restricted accounts in Qatar, spending is limited to humanitarian purposes and the international community, including the US, has oversight of how they get spent. None have been spent yet, so even the fungibility argument won’t work yet.
I’m afraid this war just might not be very useful as a domestic political cudgel. Heck, at some point you might just have to comment on the war itself.
wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 18:19 last edited by Jolly 10 Jul 2023, 18:19@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
You understand incorrectly. It is held in restricted accounts in Qatar, spending is limited to humanitarian purposes and the international community, including the US, has oversight of how they get spent. None have been spent yet, so even the fungibility argument won’t work yet.
I’m afraid this war just might not be very useful as a domestic political cudgel. Heck, at some point you might just have to comment on the war itself.
I do believe this money will be going to a country who has run a banned nuclear program right under the international community's nose. I have much faith that they can shift and hide money to do whatever they wish with their $6B. Just because we do not agree with their world view or with their politics, does not mean they are stupid.
This attack on Israel wasn't planned last week. The number of rockets alone, is staggering. This has been in the works for quite some time. I don't know about HAMAS, but I'm pretty sure the Hezbollah folks have Iranian backing and would not act without Iran's input.
As for the attack being a domestic political cudgel, somebody once told me if an event happens during a Presidential term, that President must own it. The buck stops in the Oval Office. Therefore, wave the bloody flag and beat The Resident's ass to a pulp with it. He inherited a situation in the ME, that was as stable as it had been in several years and he's made several missteps. Maybe he can salvage something out of this mess, but I have my doubts...
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@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
You understand incorrectly. It is held in restricted accounts in Qatar, spending is limited to humanitarian purposes and the international community, including the US, has oversight of how they get spent. None have been spent yet, so even the fungibility argument won’t work yet.
I’m afraid this war just might not be very useful as a domestic political cudgel. Heck, at some point you might just have to comment on the war itself.
I do believe this money will be going to a country who has run a banned nuclear program right under the international community's nose. I have much faith that they can shift and hide money to do whatever they wish with their $6B. Just because we do not agree with their world view or with their politics, does not mean they are stupid.
This attack on Israel wasn't planned last week. The number of rockets alone, is staggering. This has been in the works for quite some time. I don't know about HAMAS, but I'm pretty sure the Hezbollah folks have Iranian backing and would not act without Iran's input.
As for the attack being a domestic political cudgel, somebody once told me if an event happens during a Presidential term, that President must own it. The buck stops in the Oval Office. Therefore, wave the bloody flag and beat The Resident's ass to a pulp with it. He inherited a situation in the ME, that was as stable as it had been in several years and he's made several missteps. Maybe he can salvage something out of this mess, but I have my doubts...
wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 18:30 last edited by@Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:
This attack on Israel wasn't planned last week. The number of rockets alone, is staggering. This has been in the works for quite some time.
All the more reason it’s silly to make a causal connection between the Qatari accounts and this.
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wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 18:37 last edited by
I said they weren't stupid. I didn't say they were always logical.
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wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 18:54 last edited by
I’ve been all day in the hospital. Just returned. Back again early tomorrow. No time to respond here. But things are tense.
All my family are all ok.
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I’ve been all day in the hospital. Just returned. Back again early tomorrow. No time to respond here. But things are tense.
All my family are all ok.
wrote on 7 Oct 2023, 19:01 last edited by@bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:
I’ve been all day in the hospital. Just returned. Back again early tomorrow. No time to respond here. But things are tense.
All my family are all ok.
Glad to hear from you and glad your family is okay. Stay safe.