Hamas attacks Israel
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All those towns in the south have sort of internal quasi army self defense units all armed with military weapons. Many of them were simply overwhelmed in numbers. In some places they succeeded in wiping out the marauders but obviously not everywhere. Kibbutz Beeri had 100 members dead. Some were families including children tied up and executed.
There will be no mercy anymore. Gaza will be turned into rubble. And if hezbollah is so inclined, Beirut will also be turned to rubble.
The American aircraft carrier is a message to Assad and Putin on whose side the USA stands.wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 20:48 last edited by@bachophile said in Hamas attacks Israel:
There will be no mercy anymore.
That makes sense to me.
Stay safe.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:08 last edited by
I do not like that "no mercy anymore."
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:24 last edited by
Israeli death toll up to 800. “At least” 150 hostages.
Jesus.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:26 last edited by
On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.
It’s hard to listen to.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:30 last edited by
From a BBC story in March
Israeli gun ownership is low at about 2% of the population. It compares to about 30% of the population owning a gun in the US.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65110881
I'm surprised to see it that low.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:40 last edited by
Israeli airspace at the moment
Note the drone(?) in the south
No registration (just Israel), No Type
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:45 last edited by Copper 10 Sept 2023, 21:45
Interesting flight path on this Israeli military plane
There are a few Israeli military planes up, they all look like this
The few commercial flights leaving Tel Aviv look normal
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:45 last edited by
I don’t know how to interpret this as a war. Is there a way to target those responsible for the terrorist attack? Is turning Gaza into glass a close enough approximation?
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:49 last edited by
Isn't calling it a war something you do to establish new rules, not necessarily actions?
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 21:52 last edited by
I am sure parallels to Dresden and Hiroshima exist.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 22:58 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 23:16
It’s a war, a war between Hamas and Israel in which Hamas fired the first shot in aggression. Israel is defending itself.
Not sure if you’ll find many parallels, Hamas is not a sovereign state and nor is there a recognised Palestinian state. In that sense it’s sort of like a civil war (which it is not) and sort of like, what Putin has called, a special military operation, but a purely defensive and justifiable SMO and one with a clearly defined objective - the annihilation of Hamas as a criminal and para military terrorist organisation. But on second thought it’s not an SMO either.
So for now let’s settle with; it’s a war. Much more to the point.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 23:14 last edited by
The very act of destroying Hamas creates Hamas. I’d call it a Hydra, but it’s much more insidious than that.
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wrote on 9 Oct 2023, 23:18 last edited by Renauda 10 Sept 2023, 23:54
LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.
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On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.
It’s hard to listen to.
wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:01 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
On Bari Weiss’s podcast she interviewed a mom whose 12 and 16 year olds were abducted.
It’s hard to listen to.
I’m sure it is. Think I’ll skip that one.
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LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.
wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:04 last edited by@Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:
LD, you can’t reason with fanatics, they must be annihilated. A major part of the hydra is made up of fanatics, Islamic fanatics at that.
I don’t disagree. I just think that direction will have to go much farther than what I believe most westerners will ever accept.
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wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:11 last edited by
I would have no issue.
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wrote on 10 Oct 2023, 00:39 last edited by
They can sleep on the rocks and drink seawater.
Renauda is right.
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