Hamas attacks Israel
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I'm not entirely sure there is an apples to apples comparison between any realistic deal realistically proposed during the Biden administration, which was reacted to in that manner by conservative Jews, and this deal. I wonder what Ben Shapiro or Bari Weiss would say about that claim.
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Putting aside any details of actual proposals, I think he’s right that leaving Hamas in power would have been seen as a betrayal under Biden but that doesn’t stop them from thinking Trump a genius for this deal.
Perhaps some believe the rest of the deal will be implemented. Perhaps others believe it won’t and Israel will have the green light to return but without the hostages to worry about. But that latter group might be underestimating how much Trump wants a Nobel.
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I hate to it's deja vu all over again, but I really kind of feel like I've been here before.
Obviously, it's the greatest event in history and all that, but still.....
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@jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:
Releasing all the hostages is not nothing.
Clearly, it's very important on a human scale for those affected. But the idea that we've achieved peace in the ME after thousands of years of conflict is ridiculous.
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@Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:
It's another step in that direction.
I honestly don't want to be cynical about this, but my point was we've heard this all before.
Has anything actually fundamentally changed in the last two weeks?
I'd love to be wrong.
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I don't think anyone expected Hamas to behave in any other way. But I think there has been a change in that the other Arab states have had enough of them. They are decimated and this is kind of their last gasp. The calculus has changed on what to expect if they attack again. It's not exactly Larry's push them into the sea but it's not far from it.
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You have to expect a bit of "eating their own." I think the major players like Trump and the Arabs are going to steamroll over the Palestinian and Israeli outliers and just settle things. The war at this point is pretty much over--they'll be plenty of minor squabbling, but things will quiet down in a while.
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How quickly we forget.
