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Hamas attacks Israel

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  • A Offline
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    AndyD
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    #1410

    Did you all notice at the visitors book signing...

    "It's a new biginning"

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #1411

      Hamas is publicly executing Palestinians today. That doesn’t seem like the behavior of a group about to voluntarily disarm and give up power.

      “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

      • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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        AndyD
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        #1412

        Well that's a worse "new biginning", but hardly unexpected

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #1413

          He has a point.

          “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

          • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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          • HoraceH Online
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            Horace
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            #1414

            I'm not entirely sure there is an apples to apples comparison between any realistic deal realistically proposed during the Biden administration, which was reacted to in that manner by conservative Jews, and this deal. I wonder what Ben Shapiro or Bari Weiss would say about that claim.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
              #1415

              Putting aside any details of actual proposals, I think he’s right that leaving Hamas in power would have been seen as a betrayal under Biden but that doesn’t stop them from thinking Trump a genius for this deal.

              Perhaps some believe the rest of the deal will be implemented. Perhaps others believe it won’t and Israel will have the green light to return but without the hostages to worry about. But that latter group might be underestimating how much Trump wants a Nobel.

              “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

              • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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              • jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #1416

                “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1417

                  I hate to it's deja vu all over again, but I really kind of feel like I've been here before.

                  Obviously, it's the greatest event in history and all that, but still.....

                  I was only joking

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1418

                    Releasing all the hostages is not nothing.

                    “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                    • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Releasing all the hostages is not nothing.

                      Doctor PhibesD Online
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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                      #1419

                      @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                      Releasing all the hostages is not nothing.

                      Clearly, it's very important on a human scale for those affected. But the idea that we've achieved peace in the ME after thousands of years of conflict is ridiculous.

                      I was only joking

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                      • MikM Away
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                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1420

                        It's another step in that direction.

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        • MikM Mik

                          It's another step in that direction.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                          #1421

                          @Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                          It's another step in that direction.

                          I honestly don't want to be cynical about this, but my point was we've heard this all before.

                          Has anything actually fundamentally changed in the last two weeks?

                          I'd love to be wrong.

                          I was only joking

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                          • MikM Away
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                            Mik
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                            #1422

                            I don't think anyone expected Hamas to behave in any other way. But I think there has been a change in that the other Arab states have had enough of them. They are decimated and this is kind of their last gasp. The calculus has changed on what to expect if they attack again. It's not exactly Larry's push them into the sea but it's not far from it.

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                              Tom-K
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                              #1423

                              You have to expect a bit of "eating their own." I think the major players like Trump and the Arabs are going to steamroll over the Palestinian and Israeli outliers and just settle things. The war at this point is pretty much over--they'll be plenty of minor squabbling, but things will quiet down in a while.

                              Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1424

                                Prolly not planning on disarming.

                                “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                                • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                                  • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #1426

                                    Hard to read.

                                    “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                                    • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                                    • jon-nycJ Online
                                      jon-nycJ Online
                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #1427

                                      Interesting.

                                      “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                                      • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nyc
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                                        Well duh.

                                        “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                                        • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                                        • MikM Away
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                                          Mik
                                          wrote last edited by
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                                          Are they in the market for new pagers?

                                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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