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  • A Offline
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    AndyD
    wrote last edited by AndyD
    #1404

    Ditto, and on radio now. Thank God all live hostages out.
    Bibi speaks well.

    Fingers crossed for peace to continue.

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    • bachophileB Offline
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      bachophile
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      #1405

      Bibi not going to sharm and prez of Indonesia not coming. Things change very fast here. Reason given was holiday tomorrow (it’s Sukkot here ) but that would have. made the sharm summit more interesting.

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      • bachophileB Offline
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        bachophile
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        #1406

        Trump speaking. He is so off the wall. But funny.

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        • bachophileB Offline
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          bachophile
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          #1407

          How much of this stuff scripted and how much off the cuff? Just rambling on and on

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            AndyD
            wrote last edited by AndyD
            #1408

            He keeps going off script, you can tell the pre written formality in contrast; but kudos for 79 he's got stamina. Love him embarrassing his team.

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            • bachophileB Offline
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              bachophile
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              #1409

              Like saying to Miriam Adelson “she must have like 60 billion in the bank”

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              • A Offline
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                AndyD
                wrote last edited by
                #1410

                Did you all notice at the visitors book signing...

                "It's a new biginning"

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                  #1411

                  Hamas is publicly executing Palestinians today. That doesn’t seem like the behavior of a group about to voluntarily disarm and give up power.

                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                    AndyD
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                    #1412

                    Well that's a worse "new biginning", but hardly unexpected

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote last edited by
                      #1413

                      He has a point.

                      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                        Horace
                        wrote last edited by
                        #1414

                        I'm not entirely sure there is an apples to apples comparison between any realistic deal realistically proposed during the Biden administration, which was reacted to in that manner by conservative Jews, and this deal. I wonder what Ben Shapiro or Bari Weiss would say about that claim.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                          #1415

                          Putting aside any details of actual proposals, I think he’s right that leaving Hamas in power would have been seen as a betrayal under Biden but that doesn’t stop them from thinking Trump a genius for this deal.

                          Perhaps some believe the rest of the deal will be implemented. Perhaps others believe it won’t and Israel will have the green light to return but without the hostages to worry about. But that latter group might be underestimating how much Trump wants a Nobel.

                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #1416

                            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              #1417

                              I hate to it's deja vu all over again, but I really kind of feel like I've been here before.

                              Obviously, it's the greatest event in history and all that, but still.....

                              I was only joking

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #1418

                                Releasing all the hostages is not nothing.

                                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Releasing all the hostages is not nothing.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                  #1419

                                  @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                  Releasing all the hostages is not nothing.

                                  Clearly, it's very important on a human scale for those affected. But the idea that we've achieved peace in the ME after thousands of years of conflict is ridiculous.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    #1420

                                    It's another step in that direction.

                                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      It's another step in that direction.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                      #1421

                                      @Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                      It's another step in that direction.

                                      I honestly don't want to be cynical about this, but my point was we've heard this all before.

                                      Has anything actually fundamentally changed in the last two weeks?

                                      I'd love to be wrong.

                                      I was only joking

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