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Two Murders—and the Cost of Luxury Beliefs

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    https://www.thefp.com/p/two-murdersand-the-cost-of-luxury?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=260347&post_id=137703111&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=9bg2k&utm_medium=email

    Recently, two high-profile supporters of “justice reform” were murdered.

    At 4 a.m. on Monday, Ryan Carson, a 32-year-old social justice and climate change activist, was walking with his girlfriend in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, when he was stabbed to death by a stranger. Only a few hours earlier in Philadelphia, activist and journalist Josh Kruger was shot and killed in his home.

    And two Democratic lawmakers who voted to “redirect funding to community-based policing reforms” have been recent victims of violent crime.

    On Monday night, blocks away from the Capitol in Washington, D.C., Congressman Henry Cuellar was carjacked by three armed men. (The lawmaker survived the incident unscathed.) In February, Angie Craig was attacked in an elevator at her apartment building in Capitol Hill. A homeless man demanded she allow him into her home to use the restroom, then he punched her and grabbed her around the neck. She escaped after throwing hot coffee on him.

    Of course, these people did not deserve harm because of their support for soft-on-crime policies. But I’ve long argued that many people who hold “luxury beliefs”—ideas and opinions that confer status on the upper class, while often inflicting costs on the lower classes—are oblivious to the consequences of their views. Support for defunding the police is a classic example.

    Luxury beliefs can stem from malice, good intentions, or outright naivete.

    But the individuals who hold those beliefs, the people who wield the most influence in policy and culture, are often sheltered when their preferences are implemented.

    I'll add that "luxury beliefs" has come to include the so-called "sanctuary cities." It's tough when reality comes and bites you in the ass.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      Comment from the funny man...

      https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/greg-gutfeld-social-justice-murder

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #3

        Did you notice...

        1. CBS and others blurred out the face of the accused attacker? Maybe they thought he was a minor?
        2. Carson's girlfriend didn't want to give a description because she thought it might inflame "injustice."
        3. His friends have set up a GoFundMe, not for him or his family, but for his friends so they can grieve.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          Screenshot 2023-10-06 at 8.31.22 AM.png

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery for his friends.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              Ryan was a piece of work...

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

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                LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
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                @George-K said in Two Murders—and the Cost of Luxury Beliefs:

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                The Brad

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/suspect-identified-in-murder-of-activist-journalist-black-teen-he-was-helping-get-through-life/ar-AA1hPWav?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=ca42cef3b4e44bdfadd2c3a2987bd9f4&ei=32

                  The victim knew the assailant, and had been trying to help him, in one of the murders.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    Well then, good riddance to bad rubbish...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/suspect-identified-in-murder-of-activist-journalist-black-teen-he-was-helping-get-through-life/ar-AA1hPWav?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=ca42cef3b4e44bdfadd2c3a2987bd9f4&ei=32

                      The victim knew the assailant, and had been trying to help him, in one of the murders.

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      @Horace said in Two Murders—and the Cost of Luxury Beliefs:

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/suspect-identified-in-murder-of-activist-journalist-black-teen-he-was-helping-get-through-life/ar-AA1hPWav?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=ca42cef3b4e44bdfadd2c3a2987bd9f4&ei=32

                      The victim knew the assailant, and had been trying to help him, in one of the murders.

                      Well...

                      https://www.inquirer.com/crime/josh-kruger-robert-davis-philadelphia-shooting-20231011.html

                      The family of Robert Davis, 19, who is accused of killing local journalist Josh Kruger, said that Davis was just 15 when he and Kruger began a years-long relationship involving drugs — and that Davis told them Kruger was threatening to post sexually explicit videos of him online before, police say, Davis shot Kruger.

                      Those assertions by Davis’ mother and older brother in recent interviews with The Inquirer add troubling new complexities to a killing that has garnered national attention. Their account, they said, is drawn from recent conversations with Davis, and from the years of watching his life unravel as he tried to keep the relationship and his drug addiction hidden.

                      Kruger, 39, was killed after a man entered his Point Breeze home in the middle of the night, police said, and shot him seven times at the base of his stairs. Surveillance video near the scene and tips from Kruger’s friends and family led detectives to Davis, and a warrant was issued for his arrest a few days later. Police described the pair as acquaintances, and said Kruger “was trying to help [Davis] get through life.”

                      The family’s contentions come as detectives separately discovered and are investigating what multiple law enforcement sources have called explicit photos and messages in Kruger’s phone. The sources, who requested anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation, did not say whether the images or messages were connected to Davis, but said they were “disturbing” and have been turned over to the department’s Special Victims Unit for further analysis.

                      Deputy Police Commissioner Frank Vanore said the contents of Kruger’s phone are part of the investigation as detectives seek to learn more about why he may have been killed. But critical details of what happened, he said, lie with Davis, who remains at-large.

                      “I think he could answer a lot of questions if he comes into custody and surrenders,” Vanore said. “It might help us put all this together.”

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • 89th8 Offline
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                        89th
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                        For Carson, here's the full video of the attack. No blood, but clearly the stab attempts resulted in the death: https://files.catbox.moe/1wekkt.mp4

                        Not sure walking around Brooklyn at 4am is a good idea, nor is it while wearing nice clothes, nor is it good to approach a person wearing a hoodie (I will not mention race, that clearly doesn't matter), nor is it good to keep walking towards that person who is attacking a trashcan at 4am. Anyway, not to sound harsh, but I wonder if his so-called "justice reform" mindset made him numb to some very basic survival skills.

                        Side note: When the video starts, it looks like they are sitting on the bench, possibly both crying? The body language walking from the bench also implies they might be in a relationship fight.

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          The random outburst at a trashcan is when you turn around and avoid contact. Obviously.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            For Carson, here's the full video of the attack. No blood, but clearly the stab attempts resulted in the death: https://files.catbox.moe/1wekkt.mp4

                            Not sure walking around Brooklyn at 4am is a good idea, nor is it while wearing nice clothes, nor is it good to approach a person wearing a hoodie (I will not mention race, that clearly doesn't matter), nor is it good to keep walking towards that person who is attacking a trashcan at 4am. Anyway, not to sound harsh, but I wonder if his so-called "justice reform" mindset made him numb to some very basic survival skills.

                            Side note: When the video starts, it looks like they are sitting on the bench, possibly both crying? The body language walking from the bench also implies they might be in a relationship fight.

                            George KG Offline
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                            George K
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                            @89th said in Two Murders—and the Cost of Luxury Beliefs:

                            For Carson, here's the full video of the attack. No blood, but clearly the stab attempts resulted in the death: https://files.catbox.moe/1wekkt.mp4

                            Wow...

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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