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Russia - Preparing for global war.

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    A long, long thread.

    Unrolled here:

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1707407873603428717.html

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
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      Is this at all credible? I'm not doubting, I just don't know anything about the source.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        Renauda
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        I don’t wish to spoil my supper so I’ll read it, or at least try to read it, this evening. At a glance, the author’s name is not familiar.

        One thing I have learned since this whole bloody war has started is that the longer winded the so-called cyberspace analyst is, the more chances he or she is a Russian disinformation bot.

        Elbows up!

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          I don’t wish to spoil my supper so I’ll read it, or at least try to read it, this evening. At a glance, the author’s name is not familiar.

          One thing I have learned since this whole bloody war has started is that the longer winded the so-called cyberspace analyst is, the more chances he or she is a Russian disinformation bot.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          @Renauda said in Russia - Preparing for global war.:

          the longer winded the so-called cyberspace analyst is, the more chances he or she is a Russian disinformation bot.

          That's a useful filter to keep in mind.

          Here's the author:

          https://www.fpri.org/contributor/sergej-sumlenny/

          Sergej Sumlenny is a founder and managing director of the European Resilience Initiative Center, a Berlin-based think tank. From 2015-2021, Sumlenny worked as a Director at the Heinrich Böll Foundation Bureau in Kyiv, and worked in a business consultancy prior to moving to Ukraine. He has a Ph.D. in political science and an LL.M in European Law from the Free University of Berlin.

          https://www.new-east-archive.org/contributors/show/1839/sergej-sumlenny

          Sergej Sumlenny is a Russian-born journalist, political scientist and writer. He worked in Moscow for leading German TV broadcaster ARD and was a chief editor of a news programme at Russian business broadcaster RBC-TV. He has researched political journalism in post-war Germany and held a German Federal Chancellor’s Fellowship. Since 2005, he has been living in Frankfurt and Berlin, where he writes for leading Russian economics magazine Expert.

          Last year he was predicting the breakup of Russia:

          Link to video

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Renauda
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            So I read it. There are kernels of truth in his presentation insofar as the target audience of this genre of pulp fiction and cheesy filmmaking is semi literate young male Russians who haven’t left the village. The sort whose life choices are limited to substance abuse, violent criminal behaviours or, at least until recently, signing up to join the Wagner Group.

            Where the author falls off the tracks, is his thesis that this made in Russia perversion of reality is hell bent on world domination. I just don’t buy it. Sure Russia wants to dominate within its perceived sphere of influence which happens to be the areas of the Imperial Russian Empire and later the, USSR. A sort of Russian version of the Monroe Doctrine that is illiberal, ostentatiously militaristic and in a constant internal struggle between Westernisation and Modernisation. In short, great Russian exceptionalism which enables the Kremlin and the nation itself, to demand to be at the head table of International diplomacy.

            In the end the screed is not so much misinformation as it is sloppy thinking that is even unworthy as a dismally organised first year undergrad presentation.

            Elbows up!

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            • 89th8 Offline
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              Twitter thread that is 52 tweets long? Jeez, it's just a chopped up blog post. Can we go back to blogs, please?

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              • George KG George K

                @Renauda said in Russia - Preparing for global war.:

                the longer winded the so-called cyberspace analyst is, the more chances he or she is a Russian disinformation bot.

                That's a useful filter to keep in mind.

                Here's the author:

                https://www.fpri.org/contributor/sergej-sumlenny/

                Sergej Sumlenny is a founder and managing director of the European Resilience Initiative Center, a Berlin-based think tank. From 2015-2021, Sumlenny worked as a Director at the Heinrich Böll Foundation Bureau in Kyiv, and worked in a business consultancy prior to moving to Ukraine. He has a Ph.D. in political science and an LL.M in European Law from the Free University of Berlin.

                https://www.new-east-archive.org/contributors/show/1839/sergej-sumlenny

                Sergej Sumlenny is a Russian-born journalist, political scientist and writer. He worked in Moscow for leading German TV broadcaster ARD and was a chief editor of a news programme at Russian business broadcaster RBC-TV. He has researched political journalism in post-war Germany and held a German Federal Chancellor’s Fellowship. Since 2005, he has been living in Frankfurt and Berlin, where he writes for leading Russian economics magazine Expert.

                Last year he was predicting the breakup of Russia:

                Link to video

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                Renauda
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                @George-K

                Just finished watching the YouTube video. Much better than the tortuous tweet. At least it was a coherent argument based on established facts. I would agree that some of the ethnic autonomous republics would split if the opportunity arose. His examples of Tatarstan and Bashkortostan are well chosen. Both tried very hard politically and economically throughout much of the Yeltsin era to achieve independence from Moscow. Likewise the far east regions in particular, Yakutia. Then there’s the simmering, disgruntled and cowed ethnic pots in the North Caucasus. As well, there are levels of discontent in resource rich Russian regions that get very little in return from Moscow.

                It’s actually a pretty good argument with which I have only a few minor quibbles other than Sumlenny’s overly optimistic view of a disintegrating Russian Federation. I really don’t see the country passively commiting suicide for the second time in fifty years. I think that if it were to happen, it would be much more violent and protracted than when the lights went out on the USSR.

                Elbows up!

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