Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?
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wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 17:32 last edited by
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/24/house-speaker-vote/
The House GOP entered a process where they would vote by secret ballots, the candidate with the fewest vote in a round of voting is eliminated. Presumably the process would continue until there is a "last survivor." Even then there is no guarantee that the last survivor will make Speaker.
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wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 17:51 last edited by
On the Democratic side:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/24/democrats-response-house-speaker-jeffries/
Rep. Ann Kuster (N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said her group would back a bipartisan option, including a temporary speaker such as McHenry, with assurances that legislation backed by a majority of House members would get a vote. “
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... She said the bedrock request of New Democrats, who represent a large bloc of moderates, is that “bills with bipartisan support that would pass the House come to the floor.”
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Such legislation could include aid to Ukraine and government funding once current spending runs out in mid-November. ... -
On the Democratic side:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/24/democrats-response-house-speaker-jeffries/
Rep. Ann Kuster (N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said her group would back a bipartisan option, including a temporary speaker such as McHenry, with assurances that legislation backed by a majority of House members would get a vote. “
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... She said the bedrock request of New Democrats, who represent a large bloc of moderates, is that “bills with bipartisan support that would pass the House come to the floor.”
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Such legislation could include aid to Ukraine and government funding once current spending runs out in mid-November. ...wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 18:20 last edited by@Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/24/democrats-response-house-speaker-jeffries/
Rep. Ann Kuster (N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said her group would back a bipartisan option, including a temporary speaker such as McHenry, with assurances that legislation backed by a majority of House members would get a vote. “
Presumably this means that the Speaker will no longer have the power to keep bills from hitting the floor.
I've always thought that to be a kind of silly rule, giving one person that power.
But, as usual, the devil's in the details.
Who will count the "majority" of House members?
Is this a permanent rule change, or only a temp solution to what's hopefully a temporary problem.
Like many proposed changes (see Harry Reid), it can come around to bite someone in the ass.
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wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 18:29 last edited by
By definition any rule they pass is temporary.
I assume they way they’d decide is through voting - vote to take a bill to the floor and then vote the bill.
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wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 18:30 last edited by
Imagine how much better off we’d be if that were a permanent rule in both chambers.
Basically that’s what the founders envisioned.
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wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 18:34 last edited by
Tom Emmer is the latest contestant in the game ‘who can unite 98.2% of the GOP caucus’.
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wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 18:41 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Tom Emmer is the latest contestant in the game ‘who can unite 98.2% of the GOP caucus’.
...and most likely 100% of the Democrats
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wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 18:45 last edited by
The Speaker controls what bills hit the floor when.
That is one of the primary powers of the office. I wouldn't give it up.
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wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 18:47 last edited by
Seems like an opening bid. The dems would probably accept a deal whereby he agrees to take a handful of key measures to the floor.
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wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 19:08 last edited by jon-nyc
What’s your over/under on Emmer? I say he doesn’t last until Monday.
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wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 20:03 last edited by Axtremus
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4272284-tom-emmer-wins-speaker-nomination-gop-third-try/
Emmers became the 3rd House GOP nominee for Speaker.
[Emmers] got 117 votes on the final ballot, while House Republican Conference Vice Chair Mike Johnson (R-La.) got 97. And in a roll call vote that followed, lawmakers said about 20 holdouts remained.
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Seems like an opening bid. The dems would probably accept a deal whereby he agrees to take a handful of key measures to the floor.
wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 20:25 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
Seems like an opening bid. The dems would probably accept a deal whereby he agrees to take a handful of key measures to the floor.
Yes, exactly
He can always
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wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 21:20 last edited by
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wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 21:48 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
What’s your over/under on Emmer? I say he doesn’t last until Monday.
He didn't last out the day, I believe...
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wrote on 24 Oct 2023, 21:51 last edited by
Well, somebody can play REAL hardball. Wanna be Speaker? Go talk to the Dems. If Jeffries can deliver (and I think he can, they have much better cohesion) the bulk of his guys, how many Republicans would it take?
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wrote on 25 Oct 2023, 00:19 last edited by
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wrote on 25 Oct 2023, 00:34 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:
What’s your over/under on Emmer? I say he doesn’t last until Monday.
https://apnews.com/article/house-speaker-republicans-emmer-mccarthy-c7ddb6abf4c7322f9fc44fdaa07791fc
Emmers withdrew.
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wrote on 25 Oct 2023, 17:56 last edited by
Johnson wins Speakership.
Now, lets see if he can herd the cats better than McCarthy did.
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wrote on 25 Oct 2023, 18:47 last edited by
Seems like he's a bit like Jim Jordan but w/o Jim Jordan's baggage.