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Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #181

    On the Democratic side:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/24/democrats-response-house-speaker-jeffries/

    Rep. Ann Kuster (N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said her group would back a bipartisan option, including a temporary speaker such as McHenry, with assurances that legislation backed by a majority of House members would get a vote.
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    ... She said the bedrock request of New Democrats, who represent a large bloc of moderates, is that “bills with bipartisan support that would pass the House come to the floor.”

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    Such legislation could include aid to Ukraine and government funding once current spending runs out in mid-November. ...

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      On the Democratic side:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/24/democrats-response-house-speaker-jeffries/

      Rep. Ann Kuster (N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said her group would back a bipartisan option, including a temporary speaker such as McHenry, with assurances that legislation backed by a majority of House members would get a vote.
“
      .
      ... She said the bedrock request of New Democrats, who represent a large bloc of moderates, is that “bills with bipartisan support that would pass the House come to the floor.”

      .
      Such legislation could include aid to Ukraine and government funding once current spending runs out in mid-November. ...

      George KG Offline
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      #182

      @Axtremus said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/24/democrats-response-house-speaker-jeffries/

      Rep. Ann Kuster (N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said her group would back a bipartisan option, including a temporary speaker such as McHenry, with assurances that legislation backed by a majority of House members would get a vote.
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      Presumably this means that the Speaker will no longer have the power to keep bills from hitting the floor.

      I've always thought that to be a kind of silly rule, giving one person that power.

      But, as usual, the devil's in the details.

      Who will count the "majority" of House members?

      Is this a permanent rule change, or only a temp solution to what's hopefully a temporary problem.

      Like many proposed changes (see Harry Reid), it can come around to bite someone in the ass.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        #183

        By definition any rule they pass is temporary.

        I assume they way they’d decide is through voting - vote to take a bill to the floor and then vote the bill.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          #184

          Imagine how much better off we’d be if that were a permanent rule in both chambers.

          Basically that’s what the founders envisioned.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            #185

            Tom Emmer is the latest contestant in the game ‘who can unite 98.2% of the GOP caucus’.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Tom Emmer is the latest contestant in the game ‘who can unite 98.2% of the GOP caucus’.

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              #186

              @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

              Tom Emmer is the latest contestant in the game ‘who can unite 98.2% of the GOP caucus’.

              ...and most likely 100% of the Democrats 😆

              I was only joking

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                #187

                The Speaker controls what bills hit the floor when.

                That is one of the primary powers of the office. I wouldn't give it up.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  #188

                  Seems like an opening bid. The dems would probably accept a deal whereby he agrees to take a handful of key measures to the floor.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    #189

                    What’s your over/under on Emmer? I say he doesn’t last until Monday.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • AxtremusA Offline
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                      #190

                      https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4272284-tom-emmer-wins-speaker-nomination-gop-third-try/

                      Emmers became the 3rd House GOP nominee for Speaker.

                      [Emmers] got 117 votes on the final ballot, while House Republican Conference Vice Chair Mike Johnson (R-La.) got 97. And in a roll call vote that followed, lawmakers said about 20 holdouts remained.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Seems like an opening bid. The dems would probably accept a deal whereby he agrees to take a handful of key measures to the floor.

                        CopperC Offline
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                        @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                        Seems like an opening bid. The dems would probably accept a deal whereby he agrees to take a handful of key measures to the floor.

                        Yes, exactly

                        He can always renege negotiate later.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            What’s your over/under on Emmer? I say he doesn’t last until Monday.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                            What’s your over/under on Emmer? I say he doesn’t last until Monday.

                            He didn't last out the day, I believe...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Well, somebody can play REAL hardball. Wanna be Speaker? Go talk to the Dems. If Jeffries can deliver (and I think he can, they have much better cohesion) the bulk of his guys, how many Republicans would it take?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  Didn't the Romans try something like this?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    What’s your over/under on Emmer? I say he doesn’t last until Monday.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                    What’s your over/under on Emmer? I say he doesn’t last until Monday.

                                    https://apnews.com/article/house-speaker-republicans-emmer-mccarthy-c7ddb6abf4c7322f9fc44fdaa07791fc

                                    Emmers withdrew.

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      Johnson wins Speakership.

                                      Now, lets see if he can herd the cats better than McCarthy did.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Seems like he's a bit like Jim Jordan but w/o Jim Jordan's baggage.

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                                        • CopperC Offline
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                                          Copper
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                                          #200

                                          https://www.cnn.com/

                                          A key figure in failed efforts to overturn the 2020 election

                                          Trump ally Mike Johnson elected speaker three weeks after McCarthy ouster

                                          New speaker of the House Mike Johnson once wrote in support of the criminalization of gay sex

                                          We could be witnessing the GOP break apart in real time


                                          https://www.foxnews.com/

                                          From humble roots to the biggest job in the House, meet Speaker Johnson

                                          Speaker-elect Mike Johnson says that becoming the next speaker of the House is the "honor of a lifetime."

                                          He promised to "ensure the House delivers results and inspires change for the American people."

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