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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Amendment 2:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Amendment 2:

    How about impending natural disasters like a hurricane or tornado or tsunami or earthquakes?

    Nope
    Nope
    Ahhhhhh, Nope

    If a bunch of eejits decide to stay in a church after been told to evacuate due to a natural disaster, should the rescue services risk their lives to come and save them?

    Everybody counts or nobody counts.

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    George K
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    #14

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Amendment 2:

    Everybody counts or nobody counts.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @LuFins-Dad said in Amendment 2:

      How about impending natural disasters like a hurricane or tornado or tsunami or earthquakes?

      Nope
      Nope
      Ahhhhhh, Nope

      If a bunch of eejits decide to stay in a church after been told to evacuate due to a natural disaster, should the rescue services risk their lives to come and save them?

      LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on last edited by
      #15

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Amendment 2:

      @LuFins-Dad said in Amendment 2:

      How about impending natural disasters like a hurricane or tornado or tsunami or earthquakes?

      Nope
      Nope
      Ahhhhhh, Nope

      If a bunch of eejits decide to stay in a church after been told to evacuate due to a natural disaster, should the rescue services risk their lives to come and save them?

      Quite frankly, many churches are set up to serve as disaster relief centers and are well equipped to serve as shelters in a natural disaster.

      During Katrina, a large number of “eejit” churches in New Orleans opened their doors for residents that weren’t able to or chose not to evacuate, and provided food, shelter, water, and emergency medical care to others that couldn’t get out of the storms path. They organized hundreds of volunteers during the storm and tens of thousands in the aftermath and saved thousands of lives through their efforts.

      At the same time, I believe you were sitting around making snarky jokes about Bush and company…

      Who are the eejits again?

      If there is a natural disaster coming your way that you will not be able to evacuate for, I strongly recommend that you consider going to your wife’s church and sheltering with the eejits.

      The Brad

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        LuFins Dad
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        #16

        I get that you have this view of churches being filled with dumbass yokels, but you will find many brilliant and well educated leaders in those churches. But keep reveling in your bigotry, eejit.

        The Brad

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        • Doctor PhibesD Online
          Doctor PhibesD Online
          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by
          #17

          Well, that escalated quickly.

          I was only joking

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Amendment 2:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Amendment 2:

            How about impending natural disasters like a hurricane or tornado or tsunami or earthquakes?

            Nope
            Nope
            Ahhhhhh, Nope

            If a bunch of eejits decide to stay in a church after been told to evacuate due to a natural disaster, should the rescue services risk their lives to come and save them?

            Everybody counts or nobody counts.

            Doctor PhibesD Online
            Doctor PhibesD Online
            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #18

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Amendment 2:

            Everybody counts or nobody counts.

            My point, which seems to have got missed, is that people who refuse to follow evacuation orders are quite possibly putting emergency services in danger. If a church is told to evacuate, it should do so, just like everybody else.

            Obviously, churches do a lot of good in these situations acting as shelters and what-have-you.

            I was only joking

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              Jolly
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              #19

              After Katrina, the First place anybody got a hot meal, was from a SBC field kitchen. Lot of houses in New Orleans were gutted or rebuilt using donated church labor. In Houston after the last big flood, a lot of the Cajun Navy staged out of churches, parking their rigs in the parking lots and bunking in what space the church could provide.

              After the last big earthquake in Tibet, numerous churches sent "construction missionaries" to build earthquake-proof housing designed by a team of engineers and architects, using locally sourced materials. On a more personal note, my wife has spent many days, working in Southern Mexico with medical missionary teams...Nothing like being the circulating tech in a dirt-floored hut and being asked to lean over the patient, so the rat crawling on the poles overhead doesn't fall in the sterile field.

              But we don't have to go that far...Take a drive through any good-sized American town and chances are pretty good that many of the hospitals started out with the help of benevolent Christians.

              Oh, speaking of non-denominational stuff...I need to start my shoebox planning...

              https://www.samaritanspurse.org/what-we-do/operation-christmas-child/

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Amendment 2:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Amendment 2:

                How about impending natural disasters like a hurricane or tornado or tsunami or earthquakes?

                Nope
                Nope
                Ahhhhhh, Nope

                If a bunch of eejits decide to stay in a church after been told to evacuate due to a natural disaster, should the rescue services risk their lives to come and save them?

                Quite frankly, many churches are set up to serve as disaster relief centers and are well equipped to serve as shelters in a natural disaster.

                During Katrina, a large number of “eejit” churches in New Orleans opened their doors for residents that weren’t able to or chose not to evacuate, and provided food, shelter, water, and emergency medical care to others that couldn’t get out of the storms path. They organized hundreds of volunteers during the storm and tens of thousands in the aftermath and saved thousands of lives through their efforts.

                At the same time, I believe you were sitting around making snarky jokes about Bush and company…

                Who are the eejits again?

                If there is a natural disaster coming your way that you will not be able to evacuate for, I strongly recommend that you consider going to your wife’s church and sheltering with the eejits.

                Doctor PhibesD Online
                Doctor PhibesD Online
                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by
                #20

                @LuFins-Dad said in Amendment 2:

                I strongly recommend that you consider going to your wife’s church

                She's been married to me for over 25 years. Do you honestly think she still believes in God?

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Amendment 2:

                  Everybody counts or nobody counts.

                  My point, which seems to have got missed, is that people who refuse to follow evacuation orders are quite possibly putting emergency services in danger. If a church is told to evacuate, it should do so, just like everybody else.

                  Obviously, churches do a lot of good in these situations acting as shelters and what-have-you.

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #21

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Amendment 2:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Amendment 2:

                  Everybody counts or nobody counts.

                  My point, which seems to have got missed, is that people who refuse to follow evacuation orders are quite possibly putting emergency services in danger. If a church is told to evacuate, it should do so, just like everybody else.

                  Probably should, yes. How far are you willing to go to force them to do that?

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Amendment 2:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Amendment 2:

                    Everybody counts or nobody counts.

                    My point, which seems to have got missed, is that people who refuse to follow evacuation orders are quite possibly putting emergency services in danger. If a church is told to evacuate, it should do so, just like everybody else.

                    Probably should, yes. How far are you willing to go to force them to do that?

                    Doctor PhibesD Online
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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                    #22

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Amendment 2:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Amendment 2:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Amendment 2:

                    Everybody counts or nobody counts.

                    My point, which seems to have got missed, is that people who refuse to follow evacuation orders are quite possibly putting emergency services in danger. If a church is told to evacuate, it should do so, just like everybody else.

                    Probably should, yes. How far are you willing to go to force them to do that?

                    I don't know. The idea of forcing people to leave at gunpoint makes me very uncomfortable. However, the thought that somebody would use a law as a justification for not acting in their constituents best interests also makes me uncomfortable. And the thought of people refusing to leave, and then expecting other people to risk their lives as a result is also quite difficult.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Amendment 2:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Amendment 2:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Amendment 2:

                      Everybody counts or nobody counts.

                      My point, which seems to have got missed, is that people who refuse to follow evacuation orders are quite possibly putting emergency services in danger. If a church is told to evacuate, it should do so, just like everybody else.

                      Probably should, yes. How far are you willing to go to force them to do that?

                      I don't know. The idea of forcing people to leave at gunpoint makes me very uncomfortable. However, the thought that somebody would use a law as a justification for not acting in their constituents best interests also makes me uncomfortable. And the thought of people refusing to leave, and then expecting other people to risk their lives as a result is also quite difficult.

                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                      #23

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Amendment 2:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Amendment 2:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Amendment 2:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Amendment 2:

                      Everybody counts or nobody counts.

                      My point, which seems to have got missed, is that people who refuse to follow evacuation orders are quite possibly putting emergency services in danger. If a church is told to evacuate, it should do so, just like everybody else.

                      Probably should, yes. How far are you willing to go to force them to do that?

                      I don't know. The idea of forcing people to leave at gunpoint makes me very uncomfortable. However, the thought that somebody would use a law as a justification for not acting in their constituents best interests also makes me uncomfortable. And the thought of people refusing to leave, and then expecting other people to risk their lives as a result is also quite difficult.

                      That's about where I'm at, too. I mean, yeah, they should probably leave in a situation like that, but I dunno if it'd be in their best interest to be forced to do so.

                      As for putting rescue teams in harm's way, it's a drop in the bucket. Their entire career is based on saving people from themselves and their ignorant decisions.

                      Please love yourself.

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