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    George K
    wrote on 23 Jul 2020, 21:06 last edited by
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    That may, or may not, be the case ("severe economic damage").

    However, I'd like to see what the actual law is in this case. "Because it hurts me" should not be a consideration, unless it's illegal.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 23 Jul 2020, 21:11 last edited by
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      I love this little bit of disingenuity.

      "Not only does the policy threaten America’s economic interests, but these restrictions clearly exceed the authority of the executive branch, as they take a sledgehammer to the immigration laws that Congress crafted over many generations."

      Yeah. Right. Congress hasn't done anything serious on immigration for years if not decades.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        23 Jul 2020, 21:11

        I love this little bit of disingenuity.

        "Not only does the policy threaten America’s economic interests, but these restrictions clearly exceed the authority of the executive branch, as they take a sledgehammer to the immigration laws that Congress crafted over many generations."

        Yeah. Right. Congress hasn't done anything serious on immigration for years if not decades.

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        George K
        wrote on 23 Jul 2020, 21:12 last edited by
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        @Mik said in US Chambers of Commerce Sues Trump Administration:

        I love this little bit of disingenuity.

        "Not only does the policy threaten America’s economic interests, but these restrictions clearly exceed the authority of the executive branch, as they take a sledgehammer to the immigration laws that Congress crafted over many generations."

        Yeah. Right. Congress hasn't done anything serious on immigration for years if not decades.

        obama

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 00:11 last edited by
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          Yes, rise up and fight for immigrant labor on the cusp of massive unemployment!

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • G George K
            23 Jul 2020, 21:06

            That may, or may not, be the case ("severe economic damage").

            However, I'd like to see what the actual law is in this case. "Because it hurts me" should not be a consideration, unless it's illegal.

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            Loki
            wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 00:16 last edited by
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            @George-K said in US Chambers of Commerce Sues Trump Administration:

            That may, or may not, be the case ("severe economic damage").

            However, I'd like to see what the actual law is in this case. "Because it hurts me" should not be a consideration, unless it's illegal.

            What does the law say is how it should and will be judged.

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            • L Loki
              24 Jul 2020, 00:16

              @George-K said in US Chambers of Commerce Sues Trump Administration:

              That may, or may not, be the case ("severe economic damage").

              However, I'd like to see what the actual law is in this case. "Because it hurts me" should not be a consideration, unless it's illegal.

              What does the law say is how it should and will be judged.

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              George K
              wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 01:39 last edited by
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              @Loki said in US Chambers of Commerce Sues Trump Administration:

              @George-K said in US Chambers of Commerce Sues Trump Administration:

              That may, or may not, be the case ("severe economic damage").

              However, I'd like to see what the actual law is in this case. "Because it hurts me" should not be a consideration, unless it's illegal.

              What does the law say is how it should and will be judged.

              Aw, c'mon, that's the most naive thing you've said, probably ever, LOL.

              Since when does the law matter? What judges say matters, law be damned.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • J Jolly
                24 Jul 2020, 00:11

                Yes, rise up and fight for immigrant labor on the cusp of massive unemployment!

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 02:16 last edited by
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                @Jolly said in US Chambers of Commerce Sues Trump Administration:

                Yes, rise up and fight for immigrant labor on the cusp of massive unemployment!

                A lot of them do the agriculture here. And in many farms in MD this year, they just straightup didn't plant or harvest because no one local wanted the jobs. That's not speculation, it already happened. Might lead to a shortage in the fall. Just sayin'.

                Please love yourself.

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                • A Aqua Letifer
                  24 Jul 2020, 02:16

                  @Jolly said in US Chambers of Commerce Sues Trump Administration:

                  Yes, rise up and fight for immigrant labor on the cusp of massive unemployment!

                  A lot of them do the agriculture here. And in many farms in MD this year, they just straightup didn't plant or harvest because no one local wanted the jobs. That's not speculation, it already happened. Might lead to a shortage in the fall. Just sayin'.

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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 02:23 last edited by Catseye3
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                  @Aqua-Letifer said in US Chambers of Commerce Sues Trump Administration:

                  A lot of them do the agriculture here. And in many farms in MD this year, they just straightup didn't plant or harvest because no one local wanted the jobs. That's not speculation, it already happened. Might lead to a shortage in the fall. Just sayin'.

                  I can add my bit to that truth. Big fruit area where I am, especially apples. They'd rot on the ground if the migrants didn't come every year and harvest them.

                  What Aqua says about farmers not planting, that happened I believe in Georgia. I can't recall the details, something about some legislation that resulted in the crops not being harvested. So the following year farmers didnt grow peaches. Big surprise, what peaches there were went sky high in the supermarkets.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 02:39 last edited by
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                    Yeah, but are the agricultural workers ones with visas?

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      24 Jul 2020, 02:39

                      Yeah, but are the agricultural workers ones with visas?

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 02:42 last edited by
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                      @Mik said in US Chambers of Commerce Sues Trump Administration:

                      Yeah, but are the agricultural workers ones with visas?

                      Mixed bag in some MD farms.

                      Please love yourself.

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