The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President
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@taiwan_girl said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
... President Trump has a better mental capacity than President Biden, ...
No way.
BleachDisinfectant injection for COVID, Sharpie-gate, "Two Corinthians" ... Biden don't say/do things as stupid as those.@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Bleach injection for COVID
Terry: So how did you rate this claim by President Biden?
Specht: Mostly false. Trump did mention bringing UV rays and disinfectants into the body, but let's remember what Biden said. He said his predecessor, quote, "told Americans all they had to do was inject bleach in themselves, just take a shot of UV light." That is not what Trump said. It was by no means a demand, an instruction, a recommendation. Trump was speaking off the cuff. And then, scientists say, in an ill-advised way. He was not telling anyone to do anything. He was floating ideas for potential treatments to be tested. That's why we rated Biden's claim that Trump told people to inject bleach mostly false.
Trump’s statements were confusing, but a look at his exact words shows that Trump didn’t specifically instruct Americans to “inject bleach” or “take a shot” of ultraviolet light to prevent COVID-19. He did, however, inquire about whether UV light and disinfectant could be studied inside the human body. Here are Trump’s full comments:
"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light. And I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@taiwan_girl said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
... President Trump has a better mental capacity than President Biden, ...
No way.
BleachDisinfectant injection for COVID, Sharpie-gate, "Two Corinthians" ... Biden don't say/do things as stupid as those.@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Biden don't say/do things as stupid as those.
Mr. Biden is worn out, feeble, pathetic.
If only that could be changed by pointing at Mr. Trump. We would all be better off. But it can't.
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@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Bleach injection for COVID
Terry: So how did you rate this claim by President Biden?
Specht: Mostly false. Trump did mention bringing UV rays and disinfectants into the body, but let's remember what Biden said. He said his predecessor, quote, "told Americans all they had to do was inject bleach in themselves, just take a shot of UV light." That is not what Trump said. It was by no means a demand, an instruction, a recommendation. Trump was speaking off the cuff. And then, scientists say, in an ill-advised way. He was not telling anyone to do anything. He was floating ideas for potential treatments to be tested. That's why we rated Biden's claim that Trump told people to inject bleach mostly false.
Trump’s statements were confusing, but a look at his exact words shows that Trump didn’t specifically instruct Americans to “inject bleach” or “take a shot” of ultraviolet light to prevent COVID-19. He did, however, inquire about whether UV light and disinfectant could be studied inside the human body. Here are Trump’s full comments:
"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light. And I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
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@George-K, yeap, Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."
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@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
I've been told there are no stupid questions, but that one was getting pretty close.
I was only joking
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@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
Asking stupid question to a staff behind closed doors is fine, doing so on national broadcast TV in the middle of a pandemic is stupid.
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@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
Asking stupid question to a staff behind closed doors is fine, doing so on national broadcast TV in the middle of a pandemic is stupid.
@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Asking stupid question to a staff behind closed doors is fine, doing so on national broadcast TV in the middle of a pandemic is stupid.
So, we've gone from "bleach" to "disinfectant."
And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Would it be possible to do something with batteries to electrocute the virus? Maybe if everybody sat in a salt water bath with a toy shark and somebody threw a car battery in that would do it?
I’m just spitballing here, of course. I don’t think anybody has asked this before and maybe they should.
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@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Asking stupid question to a staff behind closed doors is fine, doing so on national broadcast TV in the middle of a pandemic is stupid.
So, we've gone from "bleach" to "disinfectant."
And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."
@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."
I never said "suggesting."
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@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."
I never said "suggesting."
@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."
I never said "suggesting."
No, you didn't. You didn't have to.
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@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
I've been told there are no stupid questions, but that one was getting pretty close.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
I've been told there are no stupid questions, but that one was getting pretty close.
Uh, not really.
We've used UV light in rooms for a long time for infection control purposes. As for disinfectant...I knew people who were using antibacterials religiously during COVID for nasal swabbing and gargling, especially dilute H2O2.
So while it is spitballing, it's not entirely off the wall. Especially in our state of ignorance on how to treat COVID at that time.
Look at the bright side...If that had been MERS (very similar) We wouldn't be having this conversation, because a lot of us would be dead.
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How quickly we have forgotten the horror stories of Italy and NY and the near complete lack of knowledge we had at that time.
@Mik said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
How quickly we have forgotten the horror stories of Italy and NY and the near complete lack of knowledge we had at that time.
Another reason you don't want Trump at the helm -- he doesn't know what he doesn't know, his ego gets in the way of him ever admitting that he doesn't know; that's lethal when dealing with crises with many unknowns.
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@Mik said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
How quickly we have forgotten the horror stories of Italy and NY and the near complete lack of knowledge we had at that time.
Another reason you don't want Trump at the helm -- he doesn't know what he doesn't know, his ego gets in the way of him ever admitting that he doesn't know; that's lethal when dealing with crises with many unknowns.
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@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."
I never said "suggesting."
@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."
I never said "suggesting."
You suggested it.
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