The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President
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@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Bleach injection for COVID
Terry: So how did you rate this claim by President Biden?
Specht: Mostly false. Trump did mention bringing UV rays and disinfectants into the body, but let's remember what Biden said. He said his predecessor, quote, "told Americans all they had to do was inject bleach in themselves, just take a shot of UV light." That is not what Trump said. It was by no means a demand, an instruction, a recommendation. Trump was speaking off the cuff. And then, scientists say, in an ill-advised way. He was not telling anyone to do anything. He was floating ideas for potential treatments to be tested. That's why we rated Biden's claim that Trump told people to inject bleach mostly false.
Trump’s statements were confusing, but a look at his exact words shows that Trump didn’t specifically instruct Americans to “inject bleach” or “take a shot” of ultraviolet light to prevent COVID-19. He did, however, inquire about whether UV light and disinfectant could be studied inside the human body. Here are Trump’s full comments:
"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light. And I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
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@George-K, yeap, Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."
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@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
I've been told there are no stupid questions, but that one was getting pretty close.
I was only joking
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@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
Asking stupid question to a staff behind closed doors is fine, doing so on national broadcast TV in the middle of a pandemic is stupid.
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@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
Asking stupid question to a staff behind closed doors is fine, doing so on national broadcast TV in the middle of a pandemic is stupid.
@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Asking stupid question to a staff behind closed doors is fine, doing so on national broadcast TV in the middle of a pandemic is stupid.
So, we've gone from "bleach" to "disinfectant."
And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Would it be possible to do something with batteries to electrocute the virus? Maybe if everybody sat in a salt water bath with a toy shark and somebody threw a car battery in that would do it?
I’m just spitballing here, of course. I don’t think anybody has asked this before and maybe they should.
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@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Asking stupid question to a staff behind closed doors is fine, doing so on national broadcast TV in the middle of a pandemic is stupid.
So, we've gone from "bleach" to "disinfectant."
And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."
@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."
I never said "suggesting."
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@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."
I never said "suggesting."
@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."
I never said "suggesting."
No, you didn't. You didn't have to.
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@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
I've been told there are no stupid questions, but that one was getting pretty close.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.
I've been told there are no stupid questions, but that one was getting pretty close.
Uh, not really.
We've used UV light in rooms for a long time for infection control purposes. As for disinfectant...I knew people who were using antibacterials religiously during COVID for nasal swabbing and gargling, especially dilute H2O2.
So while it is spitballing, it's not entirely off the wall. Especially in our state of ignorance on how to treat COVID at that time.
Look at the bright side...If that had been MERS (very similar) We wouldn't be having this conversation, because a lot of us would be dead.
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How quickly we have forgotten the horror stories of Italy and NY and the near complete lack of knowledge we had at that time.
@Mik said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
How quickly we have forgotten the horror stories of Italy and NY and the near complete lack of knowledge we had at that time.
Another reason you don't want Trump at the helm -- he doesn't know what he doesn't know, his ego gets in the way of him ever admitting that he doesn't know; that's lethal when dealing with crises with many unknowns.
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@Mik said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
How quickly we have forgotten the horror stories of Italy and NY and the near complete lack of knowledge we had at that time.
Another reason you don't want Trump at the helm -- he doesn't know what he doesn't know, his ego gets in the way of him ever admitting that he doesn't know; that's lethal when dealing with crises with many unknowns.
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@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."
I never said "suggesting."
@Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
@George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:
And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."
I never said "suggesting."
You suggested it.
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Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump appeared to confuse former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown with former California Governor Jerry Brown during a press conference on Thursday as he related a fantastical story of nearly dying in a helicopter crash.
Speaking from his Florida home on a variety of topics, Trump related a tale of almost going down in a helicopter with Willie Brown, who briefly dated Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris several decades ago.
“I went down in a helicopter with him," Trump said. "We thought maybe this is the end. We were in a helicopter going to a certain location together, and there was an emergency landing. This was not a pleasant landing, and Willie was, he was a little concerned."
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But Brown, a longtime Democratic power broker who also served as speaker of the California State Assembly, told the San Francisco Chronicle after Trump’s press conference that he was never in a helicopter with the former president.
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While president, Trump toured fire-ravaged portions of California in 2018 via helicopter alongside then-California Governor Jerry Brown, NBC News reported.
A representative for former Governor Brown told the New York Times there was no emergency landing and Harris never was discussed during the flight.
As Nikki Haley said, "The first party to get rid of its old man candidate will win"
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“You take a look at bacon and some of these products and some people don’t eat bacon anymore. We are going to get the energy prices down. When we get energy down, you know, this was caused by their horrible energy—wind, they want wind all over the place. But when it doesn’t blow we have a little problem. This was caused by energy. This was really caused by energy, and also their unbelievable spending. They are spending us out of wealth, actually, they’re taking our wealth away, but it was caused by energy.”
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