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The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President

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  • J jon-nyc
    16 Jun 2024, 12:25

    @Jolly said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

    Yes, a highly independent source.

    What ya gonna believe, what people tell you or your lying eyes?

    If your eyes and ears haven’t confirmed what the CEOs are saying , they’re lying to you.

    You really going to die on the “Trump doesn’t meander all over the place when he speaks publicly’ hill?

    How many videos do you want? I’m even willing to plan to show you one prospectively so no cherry picking occurs.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 13:11 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

    @Jolly said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

    Yes, a highly independent source.

    What ya gonna believe, what people tell you or your lying eyes?

    If your eyes and ears haven’t confirmed what the CEOs are saying , they’re lying to you.

    You really going to die on the “Trump doesn’t meander all over the place when he speaks publicly’ hill?

    How many videos do you want? I’m even willing to plan to show you one prospectively so no cherry picking occurs.

    Trump meanders. It's nothing new. Especially at rallies, where he's speaking for extended periods it happens.

    But Jesus, you're gonna compare that to a man who occasionally doesn't know what planet he's on?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • T taiwan_girl
      16 Jun 2024, 12:42

      @Jolly said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

      Yes, a highly independent source.

      What ya gonna believe, what people tell you or your lying eyes?

      We all know where Biden is cognitively at right now. You can try to polish a turd, but it's still a turd.

      i have said numerous times that President Biden is impaired. And I agree that President Trump has a better mental capacity than President Biden, but that bar is so so so low as to make me laugh.

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 13:45 last edited by Axtremus
      #120

      @taiwan_girl said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

      ... President Trump has a better mental capacity than President Biden, ...

      No way. Bleach Disinfectant injection for COVID, Sharpie-gate, "Two Corinthians" ... Biden don't say/do things as stupid as those.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 13:49 last edited by
        #121

        Uh, yeah he does.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • A Axtremus
          16 Jun 2024, 13:45

          @taiwan_girl said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

          ... President Trump has a better mental capacity than President Biden, ...

          No way. Bleach Disinfectant injection for COVID, Sharpie-gate, "Two Corinthians" ... Biden don't say/do things as stupid as those.

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          George K
          wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 13:55 last edited by
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          @Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

          Bleach injection for COVID

          https://www.wfae.org/politics/2024-04-03/fact-check-did-trump-once-tell-americans-to-inject-bleach-to-fight-covid-19


          Terry: So how did you rate this claim by President Biden?

          Specht: Mostly false. Trump did mention bringing UV rays and disinfectants into the body, but let's remember what Biden said. He said his predecessor, quote, "told Americans all they had to do was inject bleach in themselves, just take a shot of UV light." That is not what Trump said. It was by no means a demand, an instruction, a recommendation. Trump was speaking off the cuff. And then, scientists say, in an ill-advised way. He was not telling anyone to do anything. He was floating ideas for potential treatments to be tested. That's why we rated Biden's claim that Trump told people to inject bleach mostly false.


          https://www.wral.com/story/fact-check-biden-says-trump-told-americans-to-inject-bleach-to-treat-covid-19/21351899/

          Trump’s statements were confusing, but a look at his exact words shows that Trump didn’t specifically instruct Americans to “inject bleach” or “take a shot” of ultraviolet light to prevent COVID-19. He did, however, inquire about whether UV light and disinfectant could be studied inside the human body. Here are Trump’s full comments:

          "A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light. And I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?

          "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • A Axtremus
            16 Jun 2024, 13:45

            @taiwan_girl said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

            ... President Trump has a better mental capacity than President Biden, ...

            No way. Bleach Disinfectant injection for COVID, Sharpie-gate, "Two Corinthians" ... Biden don't say/do things as stupid as those.

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            Copper
            wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 14:30 last edited by
            #123

            @Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

            Biden don't say/do things as stupid as those.

            Mr. Biden is worn out, feeble, pathetic.

            If only that could be changed by pointing at Mr. Trump. We would all be better off. But it can't.

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              Mik
              wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 14:41 last edited by
              #124

              CBS Sunday Morning just did a big puff piece on Buttegig. Could he be the replacement?

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • M Mik
                16 Jun 2024, 14:41

                CBS Sunday Morning just did a big puff piece on Buttegig. Could he be the replacement?

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                Copper
                wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 14:44 last edited by
                #125

                @Mik said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                puff piece on Buttegig. Could he be the replacement?

                It would be considered hate to not vote for him.

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                • G George K
                  16 Jun 2024, 13:55

                  @Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                  Bleach injection for COVID

                  https://www.wfae.org/politics/2024-04-03/fact-check-did-trump-once-tell-americans-to-inject-bleach-to-fight-covid-19


                  Terry: So how did you rate this claim by President Biden?

                  Specht: Mostly false. Trump did mention bringing UV rays and disinfectants into the body, but let's remember what Biden said. He said his predecessor, quote, "told Americans all they had to do was inject bleach in themselves, just take a shot of UV light." That is not what Trump said. It was by no means a demand, an instruction, a recommendation. Trump was speaking off the cuff. And then, scientists say, in an ill-advised way. He was not telling anyone to do anything. He was floating ideas for potential treatments to be tested. That's why we rated Biden's claim that Trump told people to inject bleach mostly false.


                  https://www.wral.com/story/fact-check-biden-says-trump-told-americans-to-inject-bleach-to-treat-covid-19/21351899/

                  Trump’s statements were confusing, but a look at his exact words shows that Trump didn’t specifically instruct Americans to “inject bleach” or “take a shot” of ultraviolet light to prevent COVID-19. He did, however, inquire about whether UV light and disinfectant could be studied inside the human body. Here are Trump’s full comments:

                  "A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light. And I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?

                  "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 15:02 last edited by
                  #126

                  @George-K, yeap, Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."

                  Link to video

                  Skip to the 0:19 mark of ☝

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 15:12 last edited by
                    #127

                    I had trouble finding the bleach reference, it's not at 0:19, help me out.

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                    • A Axtremus
                      16 Jun 2024, 15:02

                      @George-K, yeap, Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."

                      Link to video

                      Skip to the 0:19 mark of ☝

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                      George K
                      wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 15:12 last edited by
                      #128

                      @Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                      Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."

                      Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • G George K
                        16 Jun 2024, 15:12

                        @Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                        Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."

                        Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 15:35 last edited by
                        #129

                        @George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                        Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.

                        I've been told there are no stupid questions, but that one was getting pretty close.

                        I was only joking

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                        • G George K
                          16 Jun 2024, 15:12

                          @Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                          Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."

                          Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 15:36 last edited by
                          #130

                          @George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                          @Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                          Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."

                          Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.

                          Asking stupid question to a staff behind closed doors is fine, doing so on national broadcast TV in the middle of a pandemic is stupid.

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                          • A Axtremus
                            16 Jun 2024, 15:36

                            @George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                            @Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                            Trump's exact word was "disinfectant" rather than "bleach."

                            Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.

                            Asking stupid question to a staff behind closed doors is fine, doing so on national broadcast TV in the middle of a pandemic is stupid.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 15:58 last edited by
                            #131

                            @Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                            Asking stupid question to a staff behind closed doors is fine, doing so on national broadcast TV in the middle of a pandemic is stupid.

                            So, we've gone from "bleach" to "disinfectant."

                            And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 16:07 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                              #132

                              Would it be possible to do something with batteries to electrocute the virus? Maybe if everybody sat in a salt water bath with a toy shark and somebody threw a car battery in that would do it?

                              I’m just spitballing here, of course. I don’t think anybody has asked this before and maybe they should.

                              I was only joking

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                              • G George K
                                16 Jun 2024, 15:58

                                @Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                                Asking stupid question to a staff behind closed doors is fine, doing so on national broadcast TV in the middle of a pandemic is stupid.

                                So, we've gone from "bleach" to "disinfectant."

                                And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 16:36 last edited by
                                #133

                                @George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                                And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."

                                I never said "suggesting."

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                                • A Axtremus
                                  16 Jun 2024, 16:36

                                  @George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                                  And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."

                                  I never said "suggesting."

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 16:45 last edited by
                                  #134

                                  @Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                                  @George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                                  And we've gone from "suggesting" to "asking."

                                  I never said "suggesting."

                                  No, you didn't. You didn't have to.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • D Doctor Phibes
                                    16 Jun 2024, 15:35

                                    @George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                                    Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.

                                    I've been told there are no stupid questions, but that one was getting pretty close.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 17:21 last edited by
                                    #135

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                                    @George-K said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                                    Show me where he suggests doing it rather than asking a question.

                                    I've been told there are no stupid questions, but that one was getting pretty close.

                                    Uh, not really.

                                    We've used UV light in rooms for a long time for infection control purposes. As for disinfectant...I knew people who were using antibacterials religiously during COVID for nasal swabbing and gargling, especially dilute H2O2.

                                    So while it is spitballing, it's not entirely off the wall. Especially in our state of ignorance on how to treat COVID at that time.

                                    Look at the bright side...If that had been MERS (very similar) We wouldn't be having this conversation, because a lot of us would be dead.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 18:45 last edited by
                                      #136

                                      How quickly we have forgotten the horror stories of Italy and NY and the near complete lack of knowledge we had at that time.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • M Mik
                                        16 Jun 2024, 18:45

                                        How quickly we have forgotten the horror stories of Italy and NY and the near complete lack of knowledge we had at that time.

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 19:28 last edited by
                                        #137

                                        @Mik said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                                        How quickly we have forgotten the horror stories of Italy and NY and the near complete lack of knowledge we had at that time.

                                        Another reason you don't want Trump at the helm -- he doesn't know what he doesn't know, his ego gets in the way of him ever admitting that he doesn't know; that's lethal when dealing with crises with many unknowns.

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                                        • A Axtremus
                                          16 Jun 2024, 19:28

                                          @Mik said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                                          How quickly we have forgotten the horror stories of Italy and NY and the near complete lack of knowledge we had at that time.

                                          Another reason you don't want Trump at the helm -- he doesn't know what he doesn't know, his ego gets in the way of him ever admitting that he doesn't know; that's lethal when dealing with crises with many unknowns.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 16 Jun 2024, 19:49 last edited by
                                          #138

                                          @Axtremus said in The Sad Cognitive Decline of a President:

                                          he doesn't know what he doesn't know

                                          Shucks, Biden doesn't know what he does know. not anymore.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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