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  • jon-nycJ Online
    jon-nycJ Online
    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #27

    There’s talk, there’s websites, and there’s filing actual articles through the formal process in the house.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • jon-nycJ Online
      jon-nycJ Online
      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #28

      This is interesting:

      But McCarthy’s decision to open the impeachment inquiry on his own without an authorization vote from the entire House could open the door for the Biden administration to challenge Republican subpoenas. In 2019, when then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi opened an impeachment inquiry into former President Donald Trump, the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel issued an opinion saying the inquiry—and resultant subpoenas—was invalid because the House had not formally voted to authorize it. Five weeks later, the House voted to endorse the impeachment inquiry into Trump.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • jon-nycJ Online
        jon-nycJ Online
        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #29

        So why not hold a vote?

        Most lawmakers were reluctant to say McCarthy’s impeachment inquiry will end in a vote floor vote, which would put the 18 GOP representatives from districts Biden won in 2020 in an uncomfortable position.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • jon-nycJ Online
          jon-nycJ Online
          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #30

          It’s actually binding on the Biden Administration unless they go outbid their way to issue a new opinion.

          That opinion — issued by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel — came in response to then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s decision to launch an impeachment inquiry into Trump without initially holding a vote for it. Not only is it still on the books, it is binding on the current administration as it responds to Tuesday’s announcement by Speaker Kevin McCarthy to authorize an impeachment inquiry into Biden, again without a vote.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
            wrote on last edited by Axtremus
            #31

            Vox says:

            https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/9/28/23870322/biden-impeachment-hunter-shokin-big-guy-half-salary

            The House is having its first impeachment hearing. What they don’t have is proof of their allegations.
            ...
            Don’t take it from me. Take it from Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO), who wrote this month: “What’s missing, despite years of investigation, is the smoking gun that connects Joe Biden to his ne’er-do-well son’s corruption.”
            .
            Of course, the GOP’s impeachment effort isn’t really about what the evidence shows — it’s political. What’s really behind this is that the hard right has been demanding aggressive action against Biden, Trump wants payback for his own two impeachments, and Speaker Kevin McCarthy is struggling to hold off threats to his speakership. The evidence is largely beside the point.

            Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO)'s op-ed:

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/15/congressman-ken-buck-biden-impeachment/

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #32

              Proof?

              That ship sailed years ago.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #33

                That's not a reason to continue the same malfeasance.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  Vox says:

                  https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/9/28/23870322/biden-impeachment-hunter-shokin-big-guy-half-salary

                  The House is having its first impeachment hearing. What they don’t have is proof of their allegations.
                  ...
                  Don’t take it from me. Take it from Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO), who wrote this month: “What’s missing, despite years of investigation, is the smoking gun that connects Joe Biden to his ne’er-do-well son’s corruption.”
                  .
                  Of course, the GOP’s impeachment effort isn’t really about what the evidence shows — it’s political. What’s really behind this is that the hard right has been demanding aggressive action against Biden, Trump wants payback for his own two impeachments, and Speaker Kevin McCarthy is struggling to hold off threats to his speakership. The evidence is largely beside the point.

                  Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO)'s op-ed:

                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/15/congressman-ken-buck-biden-impeachment/

                  George KG Offline
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                  #34

                  @Axtremus said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                  “What’s missing, despite years of investigation, is the smoking gun that connects Joe Biden to his ne’er-do-well son’s corruption.”

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • MikM Mik

                    That's not a reason to continue the same malfeasance.

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #35

                    @Mik said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                    That's not a reason to continue the same malfeasance.

                    Yes. Impeachment is a fool's errand. He'll never be convicted. I imagine the McCarthy strategy is to just prove that Biden (et al) are just corrupt enough to dissuade people from supporting him.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Mik

                      That's not a reason to continue the same malfeasance.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #36

                      @Mik said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                      That's not a reason to continue the same malfeasance.

                      Politics.

                      There is no high ground.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • George KG George K

                        @Mik said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                        That's not a reason to continue the same malfeasance.

                        Yes. Impeachment is a fool's errand. He'll never be convicted. I imagine the McCarthy strategy is to just prove that Biden (et al) are just corrupt enough to dissuade people from supporting him.

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #37

                        @George-K said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                        @Mik said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                        That's not a reason to continue the same malfeasance.

                        Yes. Impeachment is a fool's errand. He'll never be convicted. I imagine the McCarthy strategy is to just prove that Biden (et al) are just corrupt enough to dissuade people from supporting him.

                        And maybe throw enough stuff against the wall to enable some ethics legislation, while splattering mud on some Dems in Biden's orbit.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @Mik said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                          That's not a reason to continue the same malfeasance.

                          Politics.

                          There is no high ground.

                          MikM Offline
                          MikM Offline
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #38

                          @Jolly said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                          @Mik said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                          That's not a reason to continue the same malfeasance.

                          Politics.

                          There is no high ground.

                          It could and should be a lot higher than it is now. Who is going to be the adult in the room?

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #39

                            Yes, she's really that stupid.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #40

                              Why is that stupid?

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Why is that stupid?

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                #41

                                @jon-nyc said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                                Why is that stupid?

                                "Mr. Turley, did you see Hunter Biden hand a suitcase full of $100 bills to his father?"

                                That's what she's asking, isn't she?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @jon-nyc said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                                  Why is that stupid?

                                  "Mr. Turley, did you see Hunter Biden hand a suitcase full of $100 bills to his father?"

                                  That's what she's asking, isn't she?

                                  CopperC Offline
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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #42

                                  @George-K said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                                  isn't she?

                                  She just proved there is no evidence.

                                  End of impeachment.

                                  Let's go home.

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    @Jolly said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                                    @Mik said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                                    That's not a reason to continue the same malfeasance.

                                    Politics.

                                    There is no high ground.

                                    It could and should be a lot higher than it is now. Who is going to be the adult in the room?

                                    JollyJ Offline
                                    JollyJ Offline
                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #43

                                    @Mik said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                                    @Jolly said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                                    @Mik said in McCarthy opens impeachment inquiry:

                                    That's not a reason to continue the same malfeasance.

                                    Politics.

                                    There is no high ground.

                                    It could and should be a lot higher than it is now. Who is going to be the adult in the room?

                                    Nobody. Politics is a matter of MAD.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #44

                                      Please note: The GOP didn't handpick pet Dems.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #45

                                        What they said he said:

                                        What he actually said:

                                        The only way it could have been more fake is if they added a soundtrack of crowds yelling.

                                        Music would've been nice as well.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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