Hubble finds what may be strongest evidence yet of alien life
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Really? In a universe made up of all the same elements, with billions upon billions of stars and billions more planets than that, we are the only place where intelligent life developed? Doesn't make sense to me.
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Really? In a universe made up of all the same elements, with billions upon billions of stars and billions more planets than that, we are the only place where intelligent life developed? Doesn't make sense to me.
@Mik said in Hubble finds what may be strongest evidence yet of alien life:
Really? In a universe made up of all the same elements, with billions upon billions of stars and billions more planets than that, we are the only place where intelligent life developed? Doesn't make sense to me.
For me, the problem is time. The milky way's roughly the same age as the universe according to the standard model. (Maybe half as old as the universe as in the updated model.)
So, in terms of how long it takes to get the ball rolling on intelligent life, maybe we're early?
If we're not, our chances of being alone are pretty slim.
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Ah, I see your point, but we are one of the younger solar systems. The universe is estimated to be around 14 billion years old. The first stars and galaxies formed about 250 to 300 million years after that. Our sun is just under 5 billion years old. We're newcomers, relatively speaking.
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Ah, I see your point, but we are one of the younger solar systems. The universe is estimated to be around 14 billion years old. The first stars and galaxies formed about 250 to 300 million years after that. Our sun is just under 5 billion years old. We're newcomers, relatively speaking.
@Mik said in Hubble finds what may be strongest evidence yet of alien life:
Ah, I see your point, but we are one of the younger solar systems. The universe is estimated to be around 14 billion years old. The first stars and galaxies formed about 250 to 300 million years after that. Our sun is just under 5 billion years old. We're newcomers, relatively speaking.
Well, what does it take to start life? Right planet? Solar system? Galaxy? Why would the cutoff be a planet?
I take your point though, and odds are, yeah, we're the newcomers.
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Since we minded things are prerequisite for thinking about the universe and the possibilities of life, there may have been or may be an infinity of universes not containing such minded life. Anthropic principle makes statistics about the size of the universe meaningless when thinking about probabilities of life. You have to start with a meaningful probability of a planet like ours and then the singular moment were life and evolution begins. I know there are attempts at this, but they are guesstimates at best.
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We've only had telescopes for 400 years, roughly one millionth of a percent of the age of the universe. Before then we confidently stated that the earth was the center of the universe and locked people up who said otherwise, and now we've written off there being any chance of intelligent life outside of humans?
We're nothing if not cocky.
I'd say that it's more likely that we're not intelligent life after all.
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Here's some relatively rigorous thinking on the subject:
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Education is extremely important.
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Of course there is intelligent life on millions of planets.
And why assume any of them operate at the same speed as us?
Their super-brains could have clock speeds a million times faster than ours.
They could evolve from slime to supermen in a matter of (our)days, and they could come here to visit just hours later.
They are so fast, we would all appear to be soft statues to them.
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Here's some relatively rigorous thinking on the subject:
Link to video
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We may be about to create intelligent life. I occasionally wonder what happened to God. Maybe it was us. And maybe we're next.
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I agree with that there almost certainly is developed life out there, more than just a single cell or two.
But what is you guys definition of intelligent life?
For example, would the dinosaurs be considered intelligent life? They were around of 100's of millions of years, and while they could think, they never really evolved too much.
And if it was not for the "Meteor of Death", they may still be the top of the food chain today.
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I agree with that there almost certainly is developed life out there, more than just a single cell or two.
But what is you guys definition of intelligent life?
For example, would the dinosaurs be considered intelligent life? They were around of 100's of millions of years, and while they could think, they never really evolved too much.
And if it was not for the "Meteor of Death", they may still be the top of the food chain today.
@taiwan_girl said in Hubble finds what may be strongest evidence yet of alien life:
But what is you guys definition of intelligent life?
Tools are a pretty good indication.
plows, hammers, shovels, guns, cars, moon rockets, video games, books and pianos
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When the aliens come they'll undoubtedly take the piss out of our piano playing and hammering no end. It would be like going to see a Neanderthal play, and all they say the whole way through is 'Fire, Good!' and all the other Neanderthals nod their heads and applaud and shit, and you'd be sat there thinking 'When's the fucking intermission? I really need a drink or I'm going to start screaming'
That's what the alien landings are going to be like.
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Here's some relatively rigorous thinking on the subject:
Link to video
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NASA releases report on UAP (UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA)
Interesting report, but in the end, doesn't really say anything. "We think that they can be explained by non-alien means, but we are not 100% sure. More investigations is needed."
