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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    And it’s not taking into account the second income in most families.

    The Brad

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      @George-K Same with college. I was talking to a friend and he said that when he graduated (I think early 90's), his starting salary was just a bit less then his 4 year costs.

      Now, I would say the college costs are much higher than a years salary.

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      @taiwan_girl said in RFK names the three corps that control the world:

      @George-K Same with college. I was talking to a friend and he said that when he graduated (I think early 90's), his starting salary was just a bit less then his 4 year costs.

      Now, I would say the college costs are much higher than a years salary.

      Big time. If the cost of college kept up with inflation it would be flat with the black line:

      44478b66-9e20-486d-9d50-622c1c472d76-image.png

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Aside from the silly handwaving (Barge? Silly boy!), the fact remains that we do have a problem. It may not be exactly what RFK says, but it is a concentration of too many homes and too much wealth under too few people.

        Been a long time since America was in the Trust-busting business. Maybe it's time we got back in it.

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        @Jolly said in RFK names the three corps that control the world:

        Aside from the silly handwaving (Barge? Silly boy!), the fact remains that we do have a problem. It may not be exactly what RFK says, but it is a concentration of too many homes and too much wealth under too few people.

        I’ll silly boy you. Call it what you want then. Perhaps “The Scow”? Dosen’t have the same ring though.

        Elbows up!

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @jon-nyc said in RFK names the three corps that control the world:

          Three giant companies, BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard … who all own each other …” RFK Jr. explained. “They’re the biggest companies in the world. Rich, and they … own, I think they own 88 percent of the S&P 500 …

          He’s confusing the assets they have under management with assets of the companies themselves.

          Most of my securities are held in custody at Vanguard but I own them.

          Blackrock assets: 117B

          Blackrock assets under management: 8.5T

          Similar story with the others.

          The shreds of truth there are:

          1. they get to vote the shares of stock they hold within mutual funds

          2. since they are such huge buyers on behalf of their clients corporate management cares what they think. Ever-expanding scope of ESG is the risk here.

          Very well explained. There’s a whole world of room between Investment Firms trying to raise the value of their portfolios and evil one world corporists trying to eliminate ownership!

          I do think that steps need to be taken to address the number of private residences owned by these entities, but most of that can and should be handled at a local level.

          I also believe the answer to woke capitalism as demonstrated by these companies is to provide legitimate competition… You don’t like what Disney is doing? Put together an investment group large enough to get your voice into the boardroom and vote out those that are pushing the garbage…

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          @LuFins-Dad said in RFK names the three corps that control the world:

          I do think that steps need to be taken to address the number of private residences owned by these entities, but most of that can and should be handled at a local level.

          I totally agree. They tend to concentrate on sunbelt cities (growing and with landlord-friendly laws) in the 300k and under portion of the housing market. In many such places they are truly the dominant force.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            The main driver of housing price increases are local regs. Zoning #1, and construction regs #2.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • 89th8 89th

              @taiwan_girl said in RFK names the three corps that control the world:

              @George-K Same with college. I was talking to a friend and he said that when he graduated (I think early 90's), his starting salary was just a bit less then his 4 year costs.

              Now, I would say the college costs are much higher than a years salary.

              Big time. If the cost of college kept up with inflation it would be flat with the black line:

              44478b66-9e20-486d-9d50-622c1c472d76-image.png

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              @89th said in RFK names the three corps that control the world:

              @taiwan_girl said in RFK names the three corps that control the world:

              @George-K Same with college. I was talking to a friend and he said that when he graduated (I think early 90's), his starting salary was just a bit less then his 4 year costs.

              Now, I would say the college costs are much higher than a years salary.

              Big time. If the cost of college kept up with inflation it would be flat with the black line:

              44478b66-9e20-486d-9d50-622c1c472d76-image.png

              Inflation isn’t the metric used in @George-K and @taiwan_girl s post.

              The Brad

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              • 89th8 89th

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                One could argue the current housing spike of prices "must" go way back down towards the moving average.

                Also, if house prices kept at pace with inflation, the average home today would cost $178k, not 408k. Full article here: https://anytimeestimate.com/research/housing-prices-vs-inflation/#housing-vs-inflation

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                @89th said in RFK names the three corps that control the world:

                image.png

                One could argue the current housing spike of prices "must" go way back down towards the moving average.

                Also, if house prices kept at pace with inflation, the average home today would cost $178k, not 408k. Full article here: https://anytimeestimate.com/research/housing-prices-vs-inflation/#housing-vs-inflation

                That’s not a one for one comparison. To be applicable, you would need to go back and compare a new house constructed in 1980, and the construction cost of building the same house with same materials, same furnace, etc… as today. Please also factor in the rising cost of land, which is not a straight line investment due to the limited nature… They can’t make more.

                The Brad

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Aside from the silly handwaving (Barge? Silly boy!), the fact remains that we do have a problem. It may not be exactly what RFK says, but it is a concentration of too many homes and too much wealth under too few people.

                  Been a long time since America was in the Trust-busting business. Maybe it's time we got back in it.

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                  @Jolly said in RFK names the three corps that control the world:

                  ... it is a concentration of too many homes and too much wealth under too few people.

                  Been a long time since America was in the Trust-busting business. Maybe it's time we got back in it.

                  "Occupy Wall Street."
                  You missed it.

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                    Different.

                    Thanks for playing.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      So the British Royal Family aren't lizards?

                      I was only joking

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