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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    Dangerous, sez Turley:

    https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/4194898-the-why-not-grand-jury-the-georgia-final-report-should-worry-us-all/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #2

      Screenshot 2023-09-10 at 10.30.50 AM.png

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • MikM Offline
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        #3

        I suspect these charges will vanish like a fart in the wind.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #4

          Hypothetical...

          What happens if none of these charges or the NYC charges stick? Is this the end of legal gotcha games at the state level in Presidential elections?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Hypothetical...

            What happens if none of these charges or the NYC charges stick? Is this the end of legal gotcha games at the state level in Presidential elections?

            Aqua LetiferA Offline
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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

            Hypothetical...

            Is this the end of legal gotcha games at the state level in Presidential elections?

            No way.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

              Hypothetical...

              Is this the end of legal gotcha games at the state level in Presidential elections?

              No way.

              JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @Aqua-Letifer said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

              @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

              Hypothetical...

              Is this the end of legal gotcha games at the state level in Presidential elections?

              No way.

              I dunno. Tit-for-tat eventually winds up being a form of mutually assured destruction.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • MikM Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Which is exactly why I oppose impeaching Biden. We do not want it to become the norm. GOP should have taken the high road and shouted it to the rafters, at least until there is something concrete, not just something we can claim.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  Which is exactly why I oppose impeaching Biden. We do not want it to become the norm. GOP should have taken the high road and shouted it to the rafters, at least until there is something concrete, not just something we can claim.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @Mik said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                  Which is exactly why I oppose impeaching Biden. We do not want it to become the norm. GOP should have taken the high road and shouted it to the rafters, at least until there is something concrete, not just something we can claim.

                  I'm afraid there's not much high road in politics.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Which is exactly why I oppose impeaching Biden. We do not want it to become the norm. GOP should have taken the high road and shouted it to the rafters, at least until there is something concrete, not just something we can claim.

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                    George K
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                    @Mik said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                    Which is exactly why I oppose impeaching Biden. We do not want it to become the norm.

                    Agreed, but...

                    Just from a purely political/power point of view, and impeachment inquiry, with no subsequent impeachment might be a savvy move - one that will expose the corruption that is alleged, weakening Robert L. Peters, allowing a GOP win.

                    Impeachment is a non-starter, because conviction is not going to happen, and even if it does, we're looking at Kamala for a year.

                    Expose everything - you know, sunlight.

                    GOP should have taken the high road and shouted it to the rafters, at least until there is something concrete, not just something we can claim.

                    High road? Politics? C'mon, man! The GOP is playing by the Alinsky book. Once a tradition or norm is struck down, Senator Reid, there's no need for the other side to adhere to it for the sake of taking the high road. "Make 'em play by their own rules."

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                      @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                      Hypothetical...

                      Is this the end of legal gotcha games at the state level in Presidential elections?

                      No way.

                      I dunno. Tit-for-tat eventually winds up being a form of mutually assured destruction.

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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                      @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                      Hypothetical...

                      Is this the end of legal gotcha games at the state level in Presidential elections?

                      No way.

                      I dunno. Tit-for-tat eventually winds up being a form of mutually assured destruction.

                      I think that's exactly the route we've chosen on every conceivable level. Culturally, technologically, politically, militarily, you name it. We haven't hit the brakes on any of it.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @Mik said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                        Which is exactly why I oppose impeaching Biden. We do not want it to become the norm.

                        Agreed, but...

                        Just from a purely political/power point of view, and impeachment inquiry, with no subsequent impeachment might be a savvy move - one that will expose the corruption that is alleged, weakening Robert L. Peters, allowing a GOP win.

                        Impeachment is a non-starter, because conviction is not going to happen, and even if it does, we're looking at Kamala for a year.

                        Expose everything - you know, sunlight.

                        GOP should have taken the high road and shouted it to the rafters, at least until there is something concrete, not just something we can claim.

                        High road? Politics? C'mon, man! The GOP is playing by the Alinsky book. Once a tradition or norm is struck down, Senator Reid, there's no need for the other side to adhere to it for the sake of taking the high road. "Make 'em play by their own rules."

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                        #11

                        @George-K said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                        ust from a purely political/power point of view, and impeachment inquiry, with no subsequent impeachment might be a savvy move - one that will expose the corruption that is alleged, weakening Robert L. Peters, allowing a GOP win.

                        Comer says he has the votes. They aren't going to impeach Biden. But they are going to air out a lot of dirty laundry.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @George-K said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                          ust from a purely political/power point of view, and impeachment inquiry, with no subsequent impeachment might be a savvy move - one that will expose the corruption that is alleged, weakening Robert L. Peters, allowing a GOP win.

                          Comer says he has the votes. They aren't going to impeach Biden. But they are going to air out a lot of dirty laundry.

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                          Comer says he has the votes

                          He has the votes to impeach?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                            Comer says he has the votes

                            He has the votes to impeach?

                            JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @George-K said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                            @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                            Comer says he has the votes

                            He has the votes to impeach?

                            Nope. He think he has the votes to open an inquiry. Apparently, an official inquiry gives Congress more subpoena power, etc.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @George-K said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                              @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                              Comer says he has the votes

                              He has the votes to impeach?

                              Nope. He think he has the votes to open an inquiry. Apparently, an official inquiry gives Congress more subpoena power, etc.

                              George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                              Nope. He think he has the votes to open an inquiry. Apparently, an official inquiry gives Congress more subpoena power, etc.

                              That's what I thought. McCarthy has said it's in the offing.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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