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    George K
    wrote on 10 Sept 2023, 15:31 last edited by
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    Screenshot 2023-09-10 at 10.30.50 AM.png

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 10 Sept 2023, 15:40 last edited by
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      I suspect these charges will vanish like a fart in the wind.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        Jolly
        wrote on 10 Sept 2023, 15:46 last edited by
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        Hypothetical...

        What happens if none of these charges or the NYC charges stick? Is this the end of legal gotcha games at the state level in Presidential elections?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • J Jolly
          10 Sept 2023, 15:46

          Hypothetical...

          What happens if none of these charges or the NYC charges stick? Is this the end of legal gotcha games at the state level in Presidential elections?

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 10 Sept 2023, 16:47 last edited by
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          @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

          Hypothetical...

          Is this the end of legal gotcha games at the state level in Presidential elections?

          No way.

          Please love yourself.

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          • A Aqua Letifer
            10 Sept 2023, 16:47

            @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

            Hypothetical...

            Is this the end of legal gotcha games at the state level in Presidential elections?

            No way.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 10 Sept 2023, 16:51 last edited by
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            @Aqua-Letifer said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

            @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

            Hypothetical...

            Is this the end of legal gotcha games at the state level in Presidential elections?

            No way.

            I dunno. Tit-for-tat eventually winds up being a form of mutually assured destruction.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Mik
              wrote on 10 Sept 2023, 17:00 last edited by
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              Which is exactly why I oppose impeaching Biden. We do not want it to become the norm. GOP should have taken the high road and shouted it to the rafters, at least until there is something concrete, not just something we can claim.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              • M Mik
                10 Sept 2023, 17:00

                Which is exactly why I oppose impeaching Biden. We do not want it to become the norm. GOP should have taken the high road and shouted it to the rafters, at least until there is something concrete, not just something we can claim.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 10 Sept 2023, 17:20 last edited by
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                @Mik said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                Which is exactly why I oppose impeaching Biden. We do not want it to become the norm. GOP should have taken the high road and shouted it to the rafters, at least until there is something concrete, not just something we can claim.

                I'm afraid there's not much high road in politics.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • M Mik
                  10 Sept 2023, 17:00

                  Which is exactly why I oppose impeaching Biden. We do not want it to become the norm. GOP should have taken the high road and shouted it to the rafters, at least until there is something concrete, not just something we can claim.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 10 Sept 2023, 18:15 last edited by
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                  @Mik said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                  Which is exactly why I oppose impeaching Biden. We do not want it to become the norm.

                  Agreed, but...

                  Just from a purely political/power point of view, and impeachment inquiry, with no subsequent impeachment might be a savvy move - one that will expose the corruption that is alleged, weakening Robert L. Peters, allowing a GOP win.

                  Impeachment is a non-starter, because conviction is not going to happen, and even if it does, we're looking at Kamala for a year.

                  Expose everything - you know, sunlight.

                  GOP should have taken the high road and shouted it to the rafters, at least until there is something concrete, not just something we can claim.

                  High road? Politics? C'mon, man! The GOP is playing by the Alinsky book. Once a tradition or norm is struck down, Senator Reid, there's no need for the other side to adhere to it for the sake of taking the high road. "Make 'em play by their own rules."

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • J Jolly
                    10 Sept 2023, 16:51

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                    @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                    Hypothetical...

                    Is this the end of legal gotcha games at the state level in Presidential elections?

                    No way.

                    I dunno. Tit-for-tat eventually winds up being a form of mutually assured destruction.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 10 Sept 2023, 18:17 last edited by
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                    @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                    @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                    Hypothetical...

                    Is this the end of legal gotcha games at the state level in Presidential elections?

                    No way.

                    I dunno. Tit-for-tat eventually winds up being a form of mutually assured destruction.

                    I think that's exactly the route we've chosen on every conceivable level. Culturally, technologically, politically, militarily, you name it. We haven't hit the brakes on any of it.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • G George K
                      10 Sept 2023, 18:15

                      @Mik said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                      Which is exactly why I oppose impeaching Biden. We do not want it to become the norm.

                      Agreed, but...

                      Just from a purely political/power point of view, and impeachment inquiry, with no subsequent impeachment might be a savvy move - one that will expose the corruption that is alleged, weakening Robert L. Peters, allowing a GOP win.

                      Impeachment is a non-starter, because conviction is not going to happen, and even if it does, we're looking at Kamala for a year.

                      Expose everything - you know, sunlight.

                      GOP should have taken the high road and shouted it to the rafters, at least until there is something concrete, not just something we can claim.

                      High road? Politics? C'mon, man! The GOP is playing by the Alinsky book. Once a tradition or norm is struck down, Senator Reid, there's no need for the other side to adhere to it for the sake of taking the high road. "Make 'em play by their own rules."

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 10 Sept 2023, 18:30 last edited by
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                      @George-K said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                      ust from a purely political/power point of view, and impeachment inquiry, with no subsequent impeachment might be a savvy move - one that will expose the corruption that is alleged, weakening Robert L. Peters, allowing a GOP win.

                      Comer says he has the votes. They aren't going to impeach Biden. But they are going to air out a lot of dirty laundry.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        10 Sept 2023, 18:30

                        @George-K said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                        ust from a purely political/power point of view, and impeachment inquiry, with no subsequent impeachment might be a savvy move - one that will expose the corruption that is alleged, weakening Robert L. Peters, allowing a GOP win.

                        Comer says he has the votes. They aren't going to impeach Biden. But they are going to air out a lot of dirty laundry.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 10 Sept 2023, 20:46 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                        Comer says he has the votes

                        He has the votes to impeach?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • G George K
                          10 Sept 2023, 20:46

                          @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                          Comer says he has the votes

                          He has the votes to impeach?

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 10 Sept 2023, 21:25 last edited by
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                          @George-K said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                          @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                          Comer says he has the votes

                          He has the votes to impeach?

                          Nope. He think he has the votes to open an inquiry. Apparently, an official inquiry gives Congress more subpoena power, etc.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • J Jolly
                            10 Sept 2023, 21:25

                            @George-K said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                            @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                            Comer says he has the votes

                            He has the votes to impeach?

                            Nope. He think he has the votes to open an inquiry. Apparently, an official inquiry gives Congress more subpoena power, etc.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 10 Sept 2023, 21:44 last edited by
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                            @Jolly said in The Why-not? Grand Jury:

                            Nope. He think he has the votes to open an inquiry. Apparently, an official inquiry gives Congress more subpoena power, etc.

                            That's what I thought. McCarthy has said it's in the offing.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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