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My workout injury

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    4 years - holy crap.

    Looks like that's a wire that broke.

    The heart surgeons I worked with at the university got away from using wire to "suture" the sternum shut - now, however, wires are pretty much standard.

    IIRC, your incision was not a midline sternotomy but a bilateral subcostal incision, right? Not surprised that a wire broke - with the constant flexing and bending, it was a matter of time, I suppose.

    It's probably a nothingburger, but still good to be aware of what's going on. I would guess the only real problem would be if that end of the fractured wire causes some kind of injury or discomfort.

    The staples you see in the posterior pericardium (behind the heart) were probably applied to small branch vessels that were feeding your original lungs. We see this a lot with people who have had a CABG.

    A quick search shows this picture:

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    • George KG George K

      4 years - holy crap.

      Looks like that's a wire that broke.

      The heart surgeons I worked with at the university got away from using wire to "suture" the sternum shut - now, however, wires are pretty much standard.

      IIRC, your incision was not a midline sternotomy but a bilateral subcostal incision, right? Not surprised that a wire broke - with the constant flexing and bending, it was a matter of time, I suppose.

      It's probably a nothingburger, but still good to be aware of what's going on. I would guess the only real problem would be if that end of the fractured wire causes some kind of injury or discomfort.

      The staples you see in the posterior pericardium (behind the heart) were probably applied to small branch vessels that were feeding your original lungs. We see this a lot with people who have had a CABG.

      A quick search shows this picture:

      alt text

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        @Rainman It held things together post surgery. It doesn't really do much anymore, but they don't take it out unless it causes a problem (taking it out is a surgical procedure, albeit minor).

        But yeah, it broke. That happens, and unless it starts bothering me we'll just leave it.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @Rainman It held things together post surgery. It doesn't really do much anymore, but they don't take it out unless it causes a problem (taking it out is a surgical procedure, albeit minor).

          But yeah, it broke. That happens, and unless it starts bothering me we'll just leave it.

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          George K
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          @jon-nyc said in My workout injury:

          But yeah, it broke. That happens, and unless it starts bothering me we'll just leave it.

          The enemy of good is better.

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            Horace
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            I told you that surgery was a mistake.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Good luck with it, Jon.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                Not just 4 years. 4 good years. I'm probably one of the few here who has met up with you both before and after. After is better.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Got ya beat, buddy...I've got titanium plates to go along with the wires.

                  (This reminds me of a SNL Billy Crystal sketch).

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                  @Jolly said in My workout injury:

                  Got ya beat, buddy...I've got titanium plates to go along with the wires.

                  (This reminds me of a SNL Billy Crystal sketch).

                  I have two titanium plates in my jaw where the socket holes used to be.

                  So if you don't buy a mobile home from me, it ain't gonna hurt my feelings.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    Congrats on your fourth anniversary, Jon! I hope you celebrate 🍾.

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Not just 4 years. 4 good years. I'm probably one of the few here who has met up with you both before and after. After is better.

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                      @Mik said in My workout injury:

                      Not just 4 years. 4 good years. I'm probably one of the few here who has met up with you both before and after. After is better.

                      That’s for sure!

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Last summer I broke that right sternal suture at the gym (left side of picture). I felt it pop. It was weird, I knew instantly what it was.

                        Screen Shot 2020-07-22 at 4.31.06 PM copy.png

                        Besides that wire I have a few staples inside, you can see them in the above picture below the wire a couple inches, but they show up much more on the left lateral image below.

                        I had 55 more staples on the outside closing my chest up, but they got removed after 6 weeks or so. These internal few stayed behind.

                        Screen Shot 2020-07-22 at 6.03.44 PM.png

                        By the way my transplant was 4 years ago last Thursday.

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                        @jon-nyc said in My workout injury:

                        By the way my transplant was 4 years ago last Thursday.

                        That is awesome!! Long distance hugs to you!!!

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                          What TG said. ♥

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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