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Trapped in a Cave

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    On Saturday, the 2nd of September ECRA got a call, that a member of an expedition, which is actually exploring the Morca cave system in Turkey fell ill in the cave. He had severe gastric pain and this happened at the camp at -1040 m in the cave.

    The expedition members requested information what medication they could give to him, as their hope was, that the patient could exit on his own. Unfortunately at the next day it was reported, that help from outside is needed because of a rising destabilization of the circulation of the patient.

    https://caverescue.eu/news/cave-rescue-in-the-morca-cave-system-in-turkey/

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      A rescue operation to save an ailing American researcher from a cave in Turkey has begun.

      Mark Dickey, 40, started vomiting while exploring a deep Turkish cave a week ago.

      A team of 190 people is working to save Dickey, in a rescue that could take up to 10 days.

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-caver-trapped-3-000ft-103926650.html

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        Wow, thanks for bringing this up. I've seen updated videos of him where he's alert, walking, and talking, but not healed. Could be rescued within hours.

        But 3,500 feet... wow. I never really thought about how deep one could go in a cave, and that is frightening. I wonder what effects there are on the body (aside from temperature and the time/skill it takes to descend), such as pressure, oxygen, etc.

        Now I've gone down the black hole, or cave I suppose, on wiki. This is a cool article about the deepest cave (over 7,000 feet) and the various attempts to find the bottom:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veryovkina_Cave

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          BTW seems like Mark is a good dude. Very experienced and leads various cave rescue organizations.

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          • 89th8 89th

            Wow, thanks for bringing this up. I've seen updated videos of him where he's alert, walking, and talking, but not healed. Could be rescued within hours.

            But 3,500 feet... wow. I never really thought about how deep one could go in a cave, and that is frightening. I wonder what effects there are on the body (aside from temperature and the time/skill it takes to descend), such as pressure, oxygen, etc.

            Now I've gone down the black hole, or cave I suppose, on wiki. This is a cool article about the deepest cave (over 7,000 feet) and the various attempts to find the bottom:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veryovkina_Cave

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            @89th said in Trapped in a Cave:

            But 3,500 feet... wow. I never really thought about how deep one could go in a cave, and that is frightening. I wonder what effects there are on the body (aside from temperature and the time/skill it takes to descend), such as pressure, oxygen, etc.

            I wouldn't have thought they'd be that great - most moderately healthy people can climb a 3500 ft. mountain without any noticeable effect. Not that the cave depth isn't impressive - it really is.

            I was only joking

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              Is the cave depth below sea level?

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                Is the cave depth below sea level?

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                @LuFins-Dad said in Trapped in a Cave:

                Is the cave depth below sea level?

                It's amazing how much internet research I can do when I'm supposed to be working.

                It looks as though the entrance is at an elevation of 2100m, so he's probably still above sea level.

                https://www.dailysabah.com/turkiye/american-scientist-undergoes-treatment-in-turkiyes-3rd-deepest-cave/news

                I was only joking

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                  Though I’m not sure that even being 3500 feet below sea level would make for much of a difference…The air pressure in the caves is completely dependent on the shapes of the cave and the openings, no?

                  The Brad

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                    Yeah, it’s not analogous to being at a similar depth underwater.

                    There’s probably all kinds of implications regarding air quality, contaminants, pathogens, etc. As well as the potential difficulty in climbing in and out.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Yeah, it’s not analogous to being at a similar depth underwater.

                      There’s probably all kinds of implications regarding air quality, contaminants, pathogens, etc. As well as the potential difficulty in climbing in and out.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Trapped in a Cave:

                      Yeah, it’s not analogous to being at a similar depth underwater.

                      Or even going the other way, with extreme altitudes…

                      The Brad

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