Keep 'em in Texas
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I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit. Let’s bring in doctors and engineers.
If you don't take it, it can only good happen.
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I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit. Let’s bring in doctors and engineers.
@jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:
I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit. Let’s bring in doctors and engineers.
I think you're partially there. There is a place for a migrant worker program, such as we had under FDR. But to do that, we have to have a secure border, an efficient and timely immigration program and an enforcement mechanism to make sure they go home. Plus, some horrendous fines for businesses who use undocumented labor.
As for permanent immigration based on merit, I'm all for it. I think the program should revolve around education and credentials, but I also think we should have a program similar to what Canada had ( or may still have), where people with a certain amount of money to start businesses would be allowed to immigrate.
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@jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:
I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit. Let’s bring in doctors and engineers.
I think you're partially there. There is a place for a migrant worker program, such as we had under FDR. But to do that, we have to have a secure border, an efficient and timely immigration program and an enforcement mechanism to make sure they go home. Plus, some horrendous fines for businesses who use undocumented labor.
As for permanent immigration based on merit, I'm all for it. I think the program should revolve around education and credentials, but I also think we should have a program similar to what Canada had ( or may still have), where people with a certain amount of money to start businesses would be allowed to immigrate.
@Jolly said in Keep 'em in Texas:
… but I also think we should have a program similar to what Canada had ( or may still have), where people with a certain amount of money to start businesses would be allowed to immigrate.
We already have that piece since 1990, it’s the “EB-5 Immigrant Investor Program.”
https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent-workers/eb-5-immigrant-investor-program
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I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit. Let’s bring in doctors and engineers.
@jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:
I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit. Let’s bring in doctors and engineers.
Interesting.. Doctors and Engineers are of higher merit than say a plumber or journeyman electrician? Or even a guy picking fruit all day?
Noted.
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Wee need more plumbers and electricians too, but we also steer too many to university that would do quite well financially in such roles.
And we have a lot of unskilled (potential) workers in the US that could pick fruit and id be fine if the salaries rose enough to make it attractive for them.
If you don't take it, it can only good happen.
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Wee need more plumbers and electricians too, but we also steer too many to university that would do quite well financially in such roles.
And we have a lot of unskilled (potential) workers in the US that could pick fruit and id be fine if the salaries rose enough to make it attractive for them.
@jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:
Wee need more plumbers and electricians too, but we also steer too many to university that would do quite well financially in such roles.
And we have a lot of unskilled (potential) workers in the US that could pick fruit and id be fine if the salaries rose enough to make it attractive for them.
What does any of that have to do with “merit”? The bias is still implicit in the statement. Engineers and Physicians are of higher merit than the others. Got it.
The Brad
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I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit. Let’s bring in doctors and engineers.
@jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:
I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit.
I agree with this. Immigration is the only thing that is keeping the US growing right now.
Without immigration, we would be like many other developed countries and see a slow/medium population decline.
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@jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:
I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit.
I agree with this. Immigration is the only thing that is keeping the US growing right now.
Without immigration, we would be like many other developed countries and see a slow/medium population decline.
@taiwan_girl said in Keep 'em in Texas:
@jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:
I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit.
I agree with this. Immigration is the only thing that is keeping the US growing right now.
Without immigration, we would be like many other developed countries and see a slow/medium population decline.
We? Are you a citizen?
Education is extremely important.
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I'm pretty sure TG said she was a US citizen a while back.
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I have an alert set up on my phone for when anybody becomes a US citizen, and I didn't see that one. Knowing TG, she may have gone through secret channels. Her spy network is legendary. She may actually have multiple US citizenships, under multiple names.
Education is extremely important.
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@jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:
Wee need more plumbers and electricians too, but we also steer too many to university that would do quite well financially in such roles.
And we have a lot of unskilled (potential) workers in the US that could pick fruit and id be fine if the salaries rose enough to make it attractive for them.
What does any of that have to do with “merit”? The bias is still implicit in the statement. Engineers and Physicians are of higher merit than the others. Got it.
@LuFins-Dad I don’t literally mean just physicians and engineers. Ultimately I mean skilled immigration, IOW based on ability and talent relative to the needs of the economy. What they can do for the country, not what the country can do for them. That could mean different things over time, including potentially plumbing and electrical work, depending on the actual needs of the country. In the 1940s it included factory workers.
As for agricultural workers, I’d say maybe, but we have a lot of healthy people with IQs in the 80-90 range whose best opportunity to support themselves might be such jobs. While I don’t know the sensitivity of food prices overall to wages in the agricultural sector, I’m at least open to the idea of letting the wages rise to the point where such jobs could be largely filled by citizens.
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@jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:
Wee need more plumbers and electricians too, but we also steer too many to university that would do quite well financially in such roles.
And we have a lot of unskilled (potential) workers in the US that could pick fruit and id be fine if the salaries rose enough to make it attractive for them.
What does any of that have to do with “merit”? The bias is still implicit in the statement. Engineers and Physicians are of higher merit than the others. Got it.
@LuFins-Dad said in Keep 'em in Texas:
Engineers and Physicians are of higher merit than the others.
What is your objection to the above?
Are you objecting to having a hierarchy for such "merit" at all, or are you objecting to the placements of different vocations on that hierarchy?
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I have an alert set up on my phone for when anybody becomes a US citizen, and I didn't see that one. Knowing TG, she may have gone through secret channels. Her spy network is legendary. She may actually have multiple US citizenships, under multiple names.
@Horace said in Keep 'em in Texas:
I have an alert set up on my phone for when anybody becomes a US citizen, and I didn't see that one. Knowing TG, she may have gone through secret channels. Her spy network is legendary. She may actually have multiple US citizenships, under multiple names.
If you had an Android, the software would have worked as intended.
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@Horace said in Keep 'em in Texas:
I have an alert set up on my phone for when anybody becomes a US citizen, and I didn't see that one. Knowing TG, she may have gone through secret channels. Her spy network is legendary. She may actually have multiple US citizenships, under multiple names.
If you had an Android, the software would have worked as intended.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Keep 'em in Texas:
@Horace said in Keep 'em in Texas:
I have an alert set up on my phone for when anybody becomes a US citizen, and I didn't see that one. Knowing TG, she may have gone through secret channels. Her spy network is legendary. She may actually have multiple US citizenships, under multiple names.
If you had an Android, the software would have worked as intended.
Snort
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@taiwan_girl said in Keep 'em in Texas:
@jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:
I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit.
I agree with this. Immigration is the only thing that is keeping the US growing right now.
Without immigration, we would be like many other developed countries and see a slow/medium population decline.
We? Are you a citizen?
@Horace said in Keep 'em in Texas:
@taiwan_girl said in Keep 'em in Texas:
@jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:
I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit.
I agree with this. Immigration is the only thing that is keeping the US growing right now.
Without immigration, we would be like many other developed countries and see a slow/medium population decline.
We? Are you a citizen?
I am. Dual citizen.
