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Keep 'em in Texas

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #12

    Wee need more plumbers and electricians too, but we also steer too many to university that would do quite well financially in such roles.

    And we have a lot of unskilled (potential) workers in the US that could pick fruit and id be fine if the salaries rose enough to make it attractive for them.

    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #13

      Does POTUS have authority to restrict travel from one state to another - by anybody?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #14

        Does POTUS have authority to require wearing a mask?

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Wee need more plumbers and electricians too, but we also steer too many to university that would do quite well financially in such roles.

          And we have a lot of unskilled (potential) workers in the US that could pick fruit and id be fine if the salaries rose enough to make it attractive for them.

          LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #15

          @jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:

          Wee need more plumbers and electricians too, but we also steer too many to university that would do quite well financially in such roles.

          And we have a lot of unskilled (potential) workers in the US that could pick fruit and id be fine if the salaries rose enough to make it attractive for them.

          What does any of that have to do with “merit”? The bias is still implicit in the statement. Engineers and Physicians are of higher merit than the others. Got it.

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit. Let’s bring in doctors and engineers.

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            #16

            @jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:

            I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit.

            I agree with this. Immigration is the only thing that is keeping the US growing right now.

            Without immigration, we would be like many other developed countries and see a slow/medium population decline.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:

              I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit.

              I agree with this. Immigration is the only thing that is keeping the US growing right now.

              Without immigration, we would be like many other developed countries and see a slow/medium population decline.

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              @taiwan_girl said in Keep 'em in Texas:

              @jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:

              I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit.

              I agree with this. Immigration is the only thing that is keeping the US growing right now.

              Without immigration, we would be like many other developed countries and see a slow/medium population decline.

              We? Are you a citizen?

              Education is extremely important.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #18

                I'm pretty sure TG said she was a US citizen a while back.

                I was only joking

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
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                  #19

                  I have an alert set up on my phone for when anybody becomes a US citizen, and I didn't see that one. Knowing TG, she may have gone through secret channels. Her spy network is legendary. She may actually have multiple US citizenships, under multiple names.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:

                    Wee need more plumbers and electricians too, but we also steer too many to university that would do quite well financially in such roles.

                    And we have a lot of unskilled (potential) workers in the US that could pick fruit and id be fine if the salaries rose enough to make it attractive for them.

                    What does any of that have to do with “merit”? The bias is still implicit in the statement. Engineers and Physicians are of higher merit than the others. Got it.

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                    #20

                    @LuFins-Dad I don’t literally mean just physicians and engineers. Ultimately I mean skilled immigration, IOW based on ability and talent relative to the needs of the economy. What they can do for the country, not what the country can do for them. That could mean different things over time, including potentially plumbing and electrical work, depending on the actual needs of the country. In the 1940s it included factory workers.

                    As for agricultural workers, I’d say maybe, but we have a lot of healthy people with IQs in the 80-90 range whose best opportunity to support themselves might be such jobs. While I don’t know the sensitivity of food prices overall to wages in the agricultural sector, I’m at least open to the idea of letting the wages rise to the point where such jobs could be largely filled by citizens.

                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:

                      Wee need more plumbers and electricians too, but we also steer too many to university that would do quite well financially in such roles.

                      And we have a lot of unskilled (potential) workers in the US that could pick fruit and id be fine if the salaries rose enough to make it attractive for them.

                      What does any of that have to do with “merit”? The bias is still implicit in the statement. Engineers and Physicians are of higher merit than the others. Got it.

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Keep 'em in Texas:

                      Engineers and Physicians are of higher merit than the others.

                      What is your objection to the above?

                      Are you objecting to having a hierarchy for such "merit" at all, or are you objecting to the placements of different vocations on that hierarchy?

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        I have an alert set up on my phone for when anybody becomes a US citizen, and I didn't see that one. Knowing TG, she may have gone through secret channels. Her spy network is legendary. She may actually have multiple US citizenships, under multiple names.

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                        @Horace said in Keep 'em in Texas:

                        I have an alert set up on my phone for when anybody becomes a US citizen, and I didn't see that one. Knowing TG, she may have gone through secret channels. Her spy network is legendary. She may actually have multiple US citizenships, under multiple names.

                        If you had an Android, the software would have worked as intended.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @Horace said in Keep 'em in Texas:

                          I have an alert set up on my phone for when anybody becomes a US citizen, and I didn't see that one. Knowing TG, she may have gone through secret channels. Her spy network is legendary. She may actually have multiple US citizenships, under multiple names.

                          If you had an Android, the software would have worked as intended.

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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Keep 'em in Texas:

                          @Horace said in Keep 'em in Texas:

                          I have an alert set up on my phone for when anybody becomes a US citizen, and I didn't see that one. Knowing TG, she may have gone through secret channels. Her spy network is legendary. She may actually have multiple US citizenships, under multiple names.

                          If you had an Android, the software would have worked as intended.

                          Snort

                          The Brad

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @taiwan_girl said in Keep 'em in Texas:

                            @jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:

                            I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit.

                            I agree with this. Immigration is the only thing that is keeping the US growing right now.

                            Without immigration, we would be like many other developed countries and see a slow/medium population decline.

                            We? Are you a citizen?

                            taiwan_girlT Offline
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #24

                            @Horace said in Keep 'em in Texas:

                            @taiwan_girl said in Keep 'em in Texas:

                            @jon-nyc said in Keep 'em in Texas:

                            I’m for tightening up the hell out of ‘asylum’ claims so we don’t get economic refugees with made-up sad stories. Then make more legal immigration based on merit.

                            I agree with this. Immigration is the only thing that is keeping the US growing right now.

                            Without immigration, we would be like many other developed countries and see a slow/medium population decline.

                            We? Are you a citizen?

                            I am. Dual citizen. 🙂

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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #25

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                jon-nyc
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                                #26

                                Having spent plenty of time near and around Mexican campesinos this photo is either an extreme outlier or entirely staged.

                                IMG_0324.jpeg

                                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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