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"Maestro"

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  • 89th8 Online
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    89th
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    I may watch it at some point. I don't really know much about Bernstein and I was turned off a bit when I saw a clip of Cooper "conducting" in the movie, very passionate, sweaty, and the title said he had trained 6 years to make the conducting look real, when he just seemed like a glorified metronome as I believe many conductors are. Zero chance it took him 6 years to train for that... maybe he took a class once a year, six times?

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    • MikM Away
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      You won’t know much more about him from this movie. About the only possible message is how happy he would have been if he could have been openly gay. At least that’s what the ending says. First hour is great filmmaking with a very weak story. After that it’s just another soap opera.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • 89th8 Online
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        Good to know. I got the gay angle from the trailer, sad to say that was seemingly the conclusion or focus.

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          You won’t know much more about him from this movie. About the only possible message is how happy he would have been if he could have been openly gay. At least that’s what the ending says. First hour is great filmmaking with a very weak story. After that it’s just another soap opera.

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          @Mik

          Gee, I can hardly wait for the biopic movie about Horowitz and how much greater a pianist he could have been if only he didn’t have to supress his homosexual inner self.

          Elbows up!

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          • 89th8 Online
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            It can be called "The Last Consolation"

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            • MikM Away
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              One more thing oscar worthy - Cooper's makeup as he aged. Fantastic.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              • 89th8 89th

                I may watch it at some point. I don't really know much about Bernstein and I was turned off a bit when I saw a clip of Cooper "conducting" in the movie, very passionate, sweaty, and the title said he had trained 6 years to make the conducting look real, when he just seemed like a glorified metronome as I believe many conductors are. Zero chance it took him 6 years to train for that... maybe he took a class once a year, six times?

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                @89th said in "Maestro":

                I was turned off a bit when I saw a clip of Cooper "conducting" in the movie, very passionate

                Watch the clip of Bernstein really conducting the same music. Cooper gets it pretty well. Also, if you watch that YouTUbe link, you'll see what I mean.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • 89th8 Online
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                  Ok maybe conductors are a bit more than just a human metronome, LOL.

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/18wt8wa/gustavo_dudamel_rehearsal_with_la_phil/

                  and

                  Link to video

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                    ▶️ Watch this reel https://www.facebook.com/reel/1320785478798613?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V&mibextid=0NULKw

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                      I haven’t seen the movie. But maybe I’m the only one here who saw him conduct live on a number of occasions?

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