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    Horace
    wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 17:06 last edited by
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    No interest. For some reason the promotional material with Rosamund Pike turned me off. I think I'm intimidated by strong women.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 18:02 last edited by
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      I watched the first couple, and thought it was OK. They seemed to make a number of rather unnecessary changes, and it’s really rushing along, but I think I will watch the rest. They’re going to have to cut quite a bit out, I think.

      I was only joking

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      • G George K
        21 Nov 2021, 16:56

        Premiered this weekend. I guess they dropped the first three episodes.

        Anyone see it yet?

        Reviews, for what it's worth, are mixed.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 22:05 last edited by
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        @george-k said in The Wheel of Time:

        Reviews, for what it's worth, are mixed.

        The reviews I’ve seen were clearly written by people who hadn’t read the books. Complaining about it being derivative of Tolkien is like complaining about there being sex scenes in Lady Chatterley.

        I was only joking

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          21 Nov 2021, 22:05

          @george-k said in The Wheel of Time:

          Reviews, for what it's worth, are mixed.

          The reviews I’ve seen were clearly written by people who hadn’t read the books. Complaining about it being derivative of Tolkien is like complaining about there being sex scenes in Lady Chatterley.

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          George K
          wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 22:08 last edited by
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          @doctor-phibes said in The Wheel of Time:

          The reviews I’ve seen were clearly written by people who hadn’t read the books.

          As I said, I haven't read the books. The book/film debate is decades old, of course.

          Look no further than the Dune franchise to see how well, and badly, it can be done.

          Look no further than Foundation to see how almost unrelated to the book it can be.

          I watched the first 15 minutes and it just didn't move me. I'll pass for now.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 22:39 last edited by
            #26

            Read the books and loved them.

            Hard pass on this B.S.

            Please love yourself.

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            • H Horace
              21 Nov 2021, 17:06

              No interest. For some reason the promotional material with Rosamund Pike turned me off. I think I'm intimidated by strong women.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 22:40 last edited by Aqua Letifer
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              @horace said in The Wheel of Time:

              I think I'm intimidated by strong women.

              Part of the point of the whole damn series is that sometimes strong women are okay, and sometimes they fuck things up, just like dudes. Handing over the societal keys to feminazis is a lateral move.

              No chance this point, which was very much belabored in the books, is in any way referenced in the show.

              Please love yourself.

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              • A Aqua Letifer
                21 Nov 2021, 22:40

                @horace said in The Wheel of Time:

                I think I'm intimidated by strong women.

                Part of the point of the whole damn series is that sometimes strong women are okay, and sometimes they fuck things up, just like dudes. Handing over the societal keys to feminazis is a lateral move.

                No chance this point, which was very much belabored in the books, is in any way referenced in the show.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 23:15 last edited by
                #28

                @aqua-letifer said in The Wheel of Time:

                @horace said in The Wheel of Time:

                I think I'm intimidated by strong women.

                Part of the point of the whole damn series is that sometimes strong women are okay, and sometimes they fuck things up, just like dudes. Handing over the societal keys to feminazis is a lateral move.

                No chance this point, which was very much belabored in the books, is in any way referenced in the show.

                Not today…

                The Brad

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                  21 Nov 2021, 22:40

                  @horace said in The Wheel of Time:

                  I think I'm intimidated by strong women.

                  Part of the point of the whole damn series is that sometimes strong women are okay, and sometimes they fuck things up, just like dudes. Handing over the societal keys to feminazis is a lateral move.

                  No chance this point, which was very much belabored in the books, is in any way referenced in the show.

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 22 Nov 2021, 03:10 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                  #29

                  @aqua-letifer said in The Wheel of Time:

                  @horace said in The Wheel of Time:

                  I think I'm intimidated by strong women.

                  Part of the point of the whole damn series is that sometimes strong women are okay, and sometimes they fuck things up, just like dudes. Handing over the societal keys to feminazis is a lateral move.

                  No chance this point, which was very much belabored in the books, is in any way referenced in the show.

                  I didn't get that from the first couple of episodes. The reds were pretty much portrayed as feminazis in the short clip featuring them. I was expecting it to be more PC than it appeared, at least in the first episode.

                  It's at least worth a look before writing it off completely.

                  I was only joking

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    22 Nov 2021, 03:10

                    @aqua-letifer said in The Wheel of Time:

                    @horace said in The Wheel of Time:

                    I think I'm intimidated by strong women.

                    Part of the point of the whole damn series is that sometimes strong women are okay, and sometimes they fuck things up, just like dudes. Handing over the societal keys to feminazis is a lateral move.

                    No chance this point, which was very much belabored in the books, is in any way referenced in the show.

                    I didn't get that from the first couple of episodes. The reds were pretty much portrayed as feminazis in the short clip featuring them. I was expecting it to be more PC than it appeared, at least in the first episode.

                    It's at least worth a look before writing it off completely.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 24 Nov 2021, 05:55 last edited by LuFins Dad
                    #30

                    @doctor-phibes said in The Wheel of Time:

                    @aqua-letifer said in The Wheel of Time:

                    @horace said in The Wheel of Time:

                    I think I'm intimidated by strong women.

                    Part of the point of the whole damn series is that sometimes strong women are okay, and sometimes they fuck things up, just like dudes. Handing over the societal keys to feminazis is a lateral move.

                    No chance this point, which was very much belabored in the books, is in any way referenced in the show.

                    I didn't get that from the first couple of episodes. The reds were pretty much portrayed as feminazis in the short clip featuring them. I was expecting it to be more PC than it appeared, at least in the first episode.

                    It's at least worth a look before writing it off completely.

                    Meh, just through Episode 1 and I don’t know how they can

                    :::

                    square Perin’s story arc.

                    :::

                    The Brad

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      24 Nov 2021, 05:55

                      @doctor-phibes said in The Wheel of Time:

                      @aqua-letifer said in The Wheel of Time:

                      @horace said in The Wheel of Time:

                      I think I'm intimidated by strong women.

                      Part of the point of the whole damn series is that sometimes strong women are okay, and sometimes they fuck things up, just like dudes. Handing over the societal keys to feminazis is a lateral move.

                      No chance this point, which was very much belabored in the books, is in any way referenced in the show.

                      I didn't get that from the first couple of episodes. The reds were pretty much portrayed as feminazis in the short clip featuring them. I was expecting it to be more PC than it appeared, at least in the first episode.

                      It's at least worth a look before writing it off completely.

                      Meh, just through Episode 1 and I don’t know how they can

                      :::

                      square Perin’s story arc.

                      :::

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 24 Nov 2021, 12:27 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                      #31

                      @lufins-dad said in The Wheel of Time:

                      Meh, just through Episode 1 and I don’t know how they can

                      Your post was very reminiscent of the books in that it suddenly stopped about 80% of the way through. 😀

                      For some reason I can't see the spoiler.

                      I was only joking

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 24 Nov 2021, 12:46 last edited by
                        #32

                        @Doctor-Phibes Yeah, I can’t either. I recall something about the spoilers being down.

                        There were a few casting choices I didn’t care for, Lan and Tam primarily. While it felt odd at first for the Two Rivers to be populated by Indochinese , I was able to check my white privilege at the door and get past that. I don’t like where they have Perrin and Matrim at, though. I also didn’t feel the connection between these 3 Taveeren.

                        The Brad

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 03:18 last edited by
                          #33

                          I just finished the second episode. It was as meh as I remembered the first one… Of course, the books improved over time, maybe the show does, too?

                          The Brad

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                          • L LuFins Dad
                            25 Jan 2022, 03:18

                            I just finished the second episode. It was as meh as I remembered the first one… Of course, the books improved over time, maybe the show does, too?

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 03:45 last edited by
                            #34

                            @lufins-dad said in The Wheel of Time:

                            I just finished the second episode. It was as meh as I remembered the first one… Of course, the books improved over time, maybe the show does, too?

                            I think it takes itself way and I mean way too seriously.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • A Aqua Letifer
                              25 Jan 2022, 03:45

                              @lufins-dad said in The Wheel of Time:

                              I just finished the second episode. It was as meh as I remembered the first one… Of course, the books improved over time, maybe the show does, too?

                              I think it takes itself way and I mean way too seriously.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 12:47 last edited by
                              #35

                              @aqua-letifer said in The Wheel of Time:

                              @lufins-dad said in The Wheel of Time:

                              I just finished the second episode. It was as meh as I remembered the first one… Of course, the books improved over time, maybe the show does, too?

                              I think it takes itself way and I mean way too seriously.

                              So you did watch it?

                              The Brad

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                              • L LuFins Dad
                                25 Jan 2022, 12:47

                                @aqua-letifer said in The Wheel of Time:

                                @lufins-dad said in The Wheel of Time:

                                I just finished the second episode. It was as meh as I remembered the first one… Of course, the books improved over time, maybe the show does, too?

                                I think it takes itself way and I mean way too seriously.

                                So you did watch it?

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 16:39 last edited by
                                #36

                                @lufins-dad said in The Wheel of Time:

                                @aqua-letifer said in The Wheel of Time:

                                @lufins-dad said in The Wheel of Time:

                                I just finished the second episode. It was as meh as I remembered the first one… Of course, the books improved over time, maybe the show does, too?

                                I think it takes itself way and I mean way too seriously.

                                So you did watch it?

                                The first episode. The script and acting were so humorless it was actually funny.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 16:44 last edited by
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                                  Can we now post spoilery stuff without worry?

                                  The Brad

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                                  • L LuFins Dad
                                    25 Jan 2022, 16:44

                                    Can we now post spoilery stuff without worry?

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 17:08 last edited by
                                    #38

                                    @lufins-dad said in The Wheel of Time:

                                    Can we now post spoilery stuff without worry?

                                    I think so? We have the spoiler text thing still.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • A Aqua Letifer
                                      25 Jan 2022, 17:08

                                      @lufins-dad said in The Wheel of Time:

                                      Can we now post spoilery stuff without worry?

                                      I think so? We have the spoiler text thing still.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 17:13 last edited by
                                      #39

                                      @aqua-letifer said in The Wheel of Time:

                                      @lufins-dad said in The Wheel of Time:

                                      Can we now post spoilery stuff without worry?

                                      I think so? We have the spoiler text thing still.

                                      It doesn’t work anymore…

                                      :::

                                      Test

                                      :::

                                      The Brad

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 17:22 last edited by
                                        #40

                                        I’m going for it…

                                        Perrin… Married? WTF? And she dies in the first episode? There can be no possible way for them to bring that character to where he’s supposed to go from there. And no axe? Now in the second episode, Mat gives him a knife that was crafted by Perrin’s wife and a long and expository talk about balancing it’s use as a tool and as a weapon…

                                        Matrim… In the books he grew from being one of my least favorite character’s to being my favorite. The whole thing about his protectiveness towards his sisters and the issues with the parents? No frigging way. Sorry, but I don’t see where and how they go anywhere with him.

                                        And everyone is frigging unlikeable.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • L LuFins Dad
                                          25 Jan 2022, 17:22

                                          I’m going for it…

                                          Perrin… Married? WTF? And she dies in the first episode? There can be no possible way for them to bring that character to where he’s supposed to go from there. And no axe? Now in the second episode, Mat gives him a knife that was crafted by Perrin’s wife and a long and expository talk about balancing it’s use as a tool and as a weapon…

                                          Matrim… In the books he grew from being one of my least favorite character’s to being my favorite. The whole thing about his protectiveness towards his sisters and the issues with the parents? No frigging way. Sorry, but I don’t see where and how they go anywhere with him.

                                          And everyone is frigging unlikeable.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 17:40 last edited by
                                          #41

                                          @lufins-dad said in The Wheel of Time:

                                          I’m going for it…

                                          Perrin… Married? WTF? And she dies in the first episode? There can be no possible way for them to bring that character to where he’s supposed to go from there. And no axe? Now in the second episode, Mat gives him a knife that was crafted by Perrin’s wife and a long and expository talk about balancing it’s use as a tool and as a weapon…

                                          Matrim… In the books he grew from being one of my least favorite character’s to being my favorite. The whole thing about his protectiveness towards his sisters and the issues with the parents? No frigging way. Sorry, but I don’t see where and how they go anywhere with him.

                                          And everyone is frigging unlikeable.

                                          From what I've seen, the characters really aren't the same people they were in the books, and it was the characters that made the books worth reading. The actual plot is pretty silly.

                                          I was only joking

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