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    Copper
    wrote on 14 Aug 2023, 15:00 last edited by
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    I found out last night that my cousin is vacationing in Lahaina. He and his wife and children are ok, and trying to get off the island so they can find their way home.

    I have 30+ cousins, so there are plenty where he came from.

    My understanding of what made this event so deadly was that the winds were unusually high and that caused the fire to move very quickly. And there were people who were trying to escape the flames by going into the ocean where they were overcome by smoke and heavy currents.

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      Mik
      wrote on 14 Aug 2023, 17:31 last edited by
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      That’s true about the plantations. The fields have all reverted to grasslands.

      There’s also suspicion of arson.

      But Maui was beautiful when we were there in April. Very sad.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        George K
        wrote on 14 Aug 2023, 23:40 last edited by
        #11

        Someone, please tell me there's more to this story.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • G George K
          14 Aug 2023, 23:40

          Someone, please tell me there's more to this story.

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          Copper
          wrote on 14 Aug 2023, 23:51 last edited by Copper
          #12

          @George-K said in Maui:

          more to this story.

          Whenever a disaster inconveniences a certain number of people, the survivors become wards of the state and the president must make them whole.

          What is the magic number? It isn't really a number, it's more like the volume level of the mob.

          See Katrina, Sandy, wu-flu and 9/11

          What about people that have disasters but don't reach the specified volume level?
          Tough.

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          • C Copper
            14 Aug 2023, 23:51

            @George-K said in Maui:

            more to this story.

            Whenever a disaster inconveniences a certain number of people, the survivors become wards of the state and the president must make them whole.

            What is the magic number? It isn't really a number, it's more like the volume level of the mob.

            See Katrina, Sandy, wu-flu and 9/11

            What about people that have disasters but don't reach the specified volume level?
            Tough.

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            Horace
            wrote on 15 Aug 2023, 00:55 last edited by
            #13

            @Copper said in Maui:

            @George-K said in Maui:

            more to this story.

            Whenever a disaster inconveniences a certain number of people, the survivors become wards of the state and the president must make them whole.

            What is the magic number? It isn't really a number, it's more like the volume level of the mob.

            See Katrina, Sandy, wu-flu and 9/11

            What about people that have disasters but don't reach the specified volume level?
            Tough.

            Exactly. If something bad happens to you, you need to hope it happens to lots of other people at the same time.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 15 Aug 2023, 01:37 last edited by
              #14

              Tornadoes.

              Perfect example.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 01:07 last edited by
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                alt text

                https://www.yahoo.com/news/owners-nearly-100-old-wooden-202123828.html

                The Maui wildfires that burned down Lahaina shockingly spared a red-roofed wooden house.

                A photo shows the buildings on all sides of the house were destroyed.

                Yard work and ample space may have saved it, experts say, since those are the best ways to protect your home from wildfire.

                The wildfires that struck Maui earlier this month devastated the historic town of Lahaina, reducing nearly every building to ashy rubble — but one wooden house in the center of it all survived unscathed.

                Experts say this red-roofed home offers a crucial lesson in wildfire safety.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 02:06 last edited by
                  #16

                  Probably a white person lived there.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 26 Aug 2023, 12:23 last edited by
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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 26 Aug 2023, 14:39 last edited by
                      #18

                      Which came first, the nitwit or the dementia?

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                      • C Copper
                        26 Aug 2023, 14:39

                        Which came first, the nitwit or the dementia?

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                        George K
                        wrote on 26 Aug 2023, 14:43 last edited by
                        #19

                        @Copper said in Maui:

                        Which came first, the nitwit or the dementia?

                        Yes.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 28 Aug 2023, 21:02 last edited by
                          #20

                          Turns out the culprit wasn’t climate change, but CLEAN ENERGY was at last partially responsible!

                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/energy/2023/08/28/how-did-the-maui-fire-start-why-hawaii-s-power-lines-are-suspect/8ad1c7b4-45dd-11ee-b76b-0b6e5e92090d_story.html

                          The Brad

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 28 Aug 2023, 21:08 last edited by
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                            How about that. It's pretty ridiculous to think climate change would impact Hawaii more than the ocean conditions.

                            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                              28 Aug 2023, 21:08

                              How about that. It's pretty ridiculous to think climate change would impact Hawaii more than the ocean conditions.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 28 Aug 2023, 21:14 last edited by
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                              @Mik said in Maui:

                              How about that. It's pretty ridiculous to think climate change would impact Hawaii more than the ocean conditions.

                              Even California’s wildfires are mostly caused by downed power lines…

                              The Brad

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 28 Aug 2023, 21:22 last edited by
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                                Guggenheim Securities warned in a research note that given the size of the company — with a market capitalization of about $1.5 billion — and the possible liabilities if power lines started the fires, “it’s hard for us to imagine if the company will emerge from this tragic incident in its current form.”

                                I bet some Maui residents will still want to use electricity.

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