You can't post this.
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wrote on 19 Jul 2020, 16:35 last edited by
YouTube bots will no longer let the WW2 channel post their rules of conduct. The world has gone mad...The wild rules:
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wrote on 19 Jul 2020, 16:36 last edited by
BTW, the current weekly episode (WW2, chronilogically done, week-by-week):
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wrote on 19 Jul 2020, 16:40 last edited by
I saw a chess channel the bots recently stopped. The guy theorized it might be because he'd said '...and white is clearly better'. He tried appealing, but the appeal process is managed by bots, too.
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wrote on 19 Jul 2020, 16:51 last edited by
A guy I follow for photography recently made a video summarizing his trip to central Africa, taking portraits of a tribe there. (Interesting story, actually, not what you'd expect.) It was taken down and demonetized. He appealed, and after awhile it was allowed to stay posted, but still demonetized.
I watched it a few times to try to figure out what the problem could have been. Even read the closed captioning. All I can figure is that he mentioned that he's a white guy and tried to be respectful of the tribe while he was there.
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wrote on 19 Jul 2020, 17:44 last edited by
Because of the subject matter (Hitler, Mussolini, genocide, etc.) the WW2 Channel has been demonetized so much, they don't even try to fight anymore. Time Ghost is their umbrella organization and it's supported by private donations.
The host of WW2, Indy Nidel, was also the host of The Great War Channel (highly recommended) that did WW1 week-by-week. After Indy and Spartacus left, the channel has tried to carry on, since a lot of the aftermath of WW1 is very interesting (Russian Revolution, Balkan troubles, soldiers trying to assimilate in a post-war economy), but they are having much the same problem with being demonetized.
That brings up the question...Since YouTube is well aware of what their bots are doing, why are they letting them do it?
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wrote on 20 Jul 2020, 00:46 last edited by
@Jolly said in You can't post this.:
That brings up the question...Since YouTube is well aware of what their bots are doing, why are they letting them do it?
Because both the channels and the viewers are the product, which they sell to their advertisers. Channels are a dime a dozen—everyone still has Casey Neistat delusions about the platform. New would-be influencers start channels bu the thousands, every day. And they won't be for want of new viewers for a long while to come.
Basically they have no incentive to keep the content creators or the viewers happy. So let's just continue to provide a space where advertisers feel comfortable showing their ads so YouTube keeps raking it in.
They'd have to be far less ham-fisted if there ever became a serious contender, or interest began to implode due to these policies. Until then, don't count on any changes.
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wrote on 20 Jul 2020, 03:14 last edited by
Don’t like YouTube?
Host the video on your own website.
Or use one of many alternatives; here’s a list to get you started: https://medium.com/@breadnbeyond/12-finest-youtube-alternatives-to-find-out-whats-not-on-youtube-cdb6109ff4d3 -
wrote on 20 Jul 2020, 10:54 last edited by
Ah yes, the usual "let's not address or examine the problem" on any huge website, let's just find something else.
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wrote on 20 Jul 2020, 11:17 last edited by
It will only get fixed if YouTube starts losing users. If it doesn't, there's zero motivation for them to do anything.
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wrote on 20 Jul 2020, 12:08 last edited by
I don't think government intervention or regulation would fix this. Also, this isn't just about the US.
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wrote on 20 Jul 2020, 14:30 last edited by
@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
Maybe @Jolly prefers government regulations to free market mechanisms.
A totally unfettered free market is predatory and unsustainable.
But you knew that already...
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wrote on 20 Jul 2020, 15:00 last edited by
It is not regulation that is the problem but excessive and unnecessary regulation that stifles rather than supports a healthy marketplace.
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wrote on 20 Jul 2020, 15:47 last edited by
The whole idea of YouTube is such a new concept, and most of the time it works really well. OK, it's not perfect, but you can't legislate perfection.
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@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
Maybe @Jolly prefers government regulations to free market mechanisms.
A totally unfettered free market is predatory and unsustainable.
But you knew that already...
wrote on 20 Jul 2020, 16:14 last edited by@Jolly said in You can't post this.:
@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
Maybe @Jolly prefers government regulations to free market mechanisms.
A totally unfettered free market is predatory and unsustainable.
But you knew that already...
Sure, go ahead and tell me what government regulations you would like to put in place in this instance.
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@Jolly said in You can't post this.:
@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
Maybe @Jolly prefers government regulations to free market mechanisms.
A totally unfettered free market is predatory and unsustainable.
But you knew that already...
Sure, go ahead and tell me what government regulations you would like to put in place in this instance.
wrote on 20 Jul 2020, 16:35 last edited by@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
@Jolly said in You can't post this.:
@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
Maybe @Jolly prefers government regulations to free market mechanisms.
A totally unfettered free market is predatory and unsustainable.
But you knew that already...
Sure, go ahead and tell me what government regulations you would like to put in place in this instance.
Why waste my time? We know where you stand. We know where I stand.
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@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
@Jolly said in You can't post this.:
@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
Maybe @Jolly prefers government regulations to free market mechanisms.
A totally unfettered free market is predatory and unsustainable.
But you knew that already...
Sure, go ahead and tell me what government regulations you would like to put in place in this instance.
Why waste my time? We know where you stand. We know where I stand.
wrote on 20 Jul 2020, 17:07 last edited by@Jolly said in You can't post this.:
@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
@Jolly said in You can't post this.:
@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
Maybe @Jolly prefers government regulations to free market mechanisms.
A totally unfettered free market is predatory and unsustainable.
But you knew that already...
Sure, go ahead and tell me what government regulations you would like to put in place in this instance.
Why waste my time? We know where you stand. We know where I stand.
I don't know where you stand. For example, you haven't really say whether you prefer government regulations to free market mechanisms in this instance, much less articulating any policy remedy you would like to see.
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Don’t like YouTube?
Host the video on your own website.
Or use one of many alternatives; here’s a list to get you started: https://medium.com/@breadnbeyond/12-finest-youtube-alternatives-to-find-out-whats-not-on-youtube-cdb6109ff4d3wrote on 20 Jul 2020, 17:26 last edited by Aqua Letifer@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
Don’t like YouTube?
Host the video on your own website.
Or use one of many alternatives; here’s a list to get you started: https://medium.com/@breadnbeyond/12-finest-youtube-alternatives-to-find-out-whats-not-on-youtube-cdb6109ff4d3Uh, no.
Choosing a monetized content platform isn't like buying free-range eggs. YouTube algorithm changes can affect unemployment benefit numbers, and how many small businesses go under each quarter. They're that big. And they do this by marketing one way and acting another.
Say you signed a contract with a marketing company to promote your business's next event. They agree to do X, Y, and Z to promote it on such-and-such days, provided you give them the assets to use for the promotion. Your company spends hours and hours on the assets, because the event is your business's largest revenue source. Now, three days into the promotion, the marketing company ghosts you. They don't return calls, there's no one over there to speak with, and there's no promotion whatsoever, now and forever. You're officially screwed.
That's pretty much the experience creators and small publishers have with YouTube. They can spend years building up a following, and their revenue from their videos can fall to 0 any time they wake up in the morning. YouTube markets themselves as a place where creators get paid for their work. They never mention that the algorithm can destroy your financial future if you go all in on the platform—because going all in is exactly what they want you to do.
And before you attack this, I'd like to know the largest YouTube platform you've created content for and get back to me on how much you think you know.
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wrote on 20 Jul 2020, 17:40 last edited by
I'd definitely be in favour of more transparency and openness from these sites regarding how they handle these things.
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@Jolly said in You can't post this.:
@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
@Jolly said in You can't post this.:
@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
Maybe @Jolly prefers government regulations to free market mechanisms.
A totally unfettered free market is predatory and unsustainable.
But you knew that already...
Sure, go ahead and tell me what government regulations you would like to put in place in this instance.
Why waste my time? We know where you stand. We know where I stand.
I don't know where you stand. For example, you haven't really say whether you prefer government regulations to free market mechanisms in this instance, much less articulating any policy remedy you would like to see.
wrote on 20 Jul 2020, 17:49 last edited by@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
@Jolly said in You can't post this.:
@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
@Jolly said in You can't post this.:
@Axtremus said in You can't post this.:
Maybe @Jolly prefers government regulations to free market mechanisms.
A totally unfettered free market is predatory and unsustainable.
But you knew that already...
Sure, go ahead and tell me what government regulations you would like to put in place in this instance.
Why waste my time? We know where you stand. We know where I stand.
I don't know where you stand. For example, you haven't really say whether you prefer government regulations to free market mechanisms in this instance, much less articulating any policy remedy you would like to see.
Funny how you crow about free market mechanisms in this instance as if you have some sort of principled view yet when it comes to something YOU favor, such as health care, you become a fucking communist and want the government to step in and take it over completely.