Bidenomics At Work
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wrote on 28 Oct 2023, 22:40 last edited by
Dumb question...When we talk about GDP, are those in today's dollars? Or are those figures in terms of steady dollars?
Second dumb question...Does anybody know how how many people are working more than one job, trying to hang onto their home, their car and to keep the lights turned on?
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Dumb question...When we talk about GDP, are those in today's dollars? Or are those figures in terms of steady dollars?
Second dumb question...Does anybody know how how many people are working more than one job, trying to hang onto their home, their car and to keep the lights turned on?
wrote on 28 Oct 2023, 23:32 last edited by@Jolly said in Bidenomics At Work:
..Does anybody know how how many people are working more than one job
DIdn't we talk about that in a post commenting on the unemployment numbers? IIRC, the percentage is quite high - perhaps at a record.
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@Jolly said in Bidenomics At Work:
..Does anybody know how how many people are working more than one job
DIdn't we talk about that in a post commenting on the unemployment numbers? IIRC, the percentage is quite high - perhaps at a record.
wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 01:00 last edited by Axtremus@George-K said in Bidenomics At Work:
@Jolly said in Bidenomics At Work:
..Does anybody know how how many people are working more than one job
DIdn't we talk about that in a post commenting on the unemployment numbers? IIRC, the percentage is quite high - perhaps at a record.
@taiwan_girl gave the answer two weeks ago: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/243385
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A Axtremus referenced this topic on 29 Oct 2023, 01:00
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wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 01:02 last edited by Jolly
That's not an answer.
That's only people working TWO Full-time Jobs.
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wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 01:23 last edited by
@Jolly try https://www.marketwatch.com/story/more-people-are-working-multiple-jobs-as-americans-battle-high-prices-and-layoff-jitters-4da47ab3
Multiple jobholders reached 8,137,000 in March, or 5.1% of the total employed population ...
Historical comparison:
But the March level was still lower than the pre-pandemic level of 8,181,000 million in February 2020 at 5.2% of the total employed population.
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wrote on 29 Oct 2023, 01:34 last edited by
On "working more than one job", generally I expect that to increase over time as it has become easier for people to take up "side gigs." Anyone can sign up to drive drive ride-shares (Uber, Lyft), deliver food/grocery (GrubHub, Postmates, DoorDash), take on various tasks (Fiverr, TaskRabbit, FlexJobs). The trend started before Biden and will continue with or without Biden, domestically and internationally.
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wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 13:26 last edited by
Highest oil production ever.
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wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 14:07 last edited by
Yep, explains one of the lowest approval ratings in modern times..
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wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 15:06 last edited by
@Jolly said in Bidenomics At Work:
Yep, explains one of the lowest approval ratings in modern times..
Show you blockbuster jobs report, you not happy.
Show you great oil production report, you not happy.Biden Derangement Syndrome.
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wrote on 31 Oct 2023, 17:17 last edited by
Maybe you need to show your numbers to more people...
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@Jolly said in Bidenomics At Work:
Yep, explains one of the lowest approval ratings in modern times..
Show you blockbuster jobs report, you not happy.
Show you great oil production report, you not happy.Biden Derangement Syndrome.
wrote on 1 Nov 2023, 08:33 last edited by@Axtremus said in Bidenomics At Work:
@Jolly said in Bidenomics At Work:
Yep, explains one of the lowest approval ratings in modern times..
Show you blockbuster jobs report, you not happy.
Show you great oil production report, you not happy.Biden Derangement Syndrome.
When they are from your "side", good things are because of them and bad things are in spite of them.
When they are from the other "side", good things are in spite of them, and bad things are because of them.
President Trump could have personally come up with a cure for all cancers, and the Democrats would still have found something with that to blame on him (why didn't he do this earlier? Too expensive! Great, cured cancer, but doesn't he care about high blood pressure?)
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Maybe you need to show your numbers to more people...
wrote on 1 Nov 2023, 12:04 last edited by@Jolly said in Bidenomics At Work:
Maybe you need to show your numbers to more people...
Who you gonna believe, the government or your own lying checkbook?
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@Jolly said in Bidenomics At Work:
Maybe you need to show your numbers to more people...
Who you gonna believe, the government or your own lying checkbook?
wrote on 1 Nov 2023, 12:07 last edited by@George-K said in Bidenomics At Work:
@Jolly said in Bidenomics At Work:
Maybe you need to show your numbers to more people...
Who you gonna believe, the government or your own lying checkbook?
What's the old rule of thumb? 20 or 25% of income?
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@Jolly said in Bidenomics At Work:
Maybe you need to show your numbers to more people...
Who you gonna believe, the government or your own lying checkbook?
wrote on 1 Nov 2023, 13:14 last edited by@George-K said in Bidenomics At Work:
@Jolly said in Bidenomics At Work:
Maybe you need to show your numbers to more people...
Who you gonna believe, the government or your own lying checkbook?
Note the assumptions below the graph — the graph does not reflect what people actually pay, only hypothetical based on certain assumptions.
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wrote on 1 Nov 2023, 21:04 last edited by
Right, also the vast majority of existing mortgages were not written since the interest rate hikes.
That graph shows an important problem, namely the formidable challenges for young household formation. But it isn’t tracking the experiences of average households.
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wrote on 1 Nov 2023, 22:39 last edited by LuFins Dad 11 Jan 2023, 22:40
I think that it’s impacting more people than you think. There were around 3,000,000 residential mortgages processed this year. Now granted, that number is WAAAAAAYYYY down, but 3,000,000 is still 3% of US households and we still need the data for the 3rd quarter. By the end of the year we could be approaching 6% of households. There were also around 8,000,000 new mortgages executed in 2022. The interest rates weren’t quite where they are today, but are damn close. Now let’s add on pre-existing ARMS. That accounts for approximately 3% of existing mortgages prior to the rate hikes. So how many more households does that add?
Now, let’s talk about Commercial Mortgages. Landlords normally finance their investment properties, and many use ARMS. There’s been a lot of talk and aspersions cast on landlords recently, blaming greed for rising rents and ignoring the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of property owners that still haven’t been able to collect back COVID rent, are facing significantly higher maintenance costs, and are between a rock and a hard place on their mortgages.
Now let’s talk about home equity lines of credit… Or families that were planning on refinancing to help pay for needed repairs and such?
How many industries are strongly reliant on the housing market? Hell, even the piano industry is strongly affected by the housing market.
No, this is affecting millions and millions of households. My bet is close to half of US households are being hurt. This is a lot bigger than just the Gen Z’s that are having to hold off on purchasing due to the interest rates.
And all brought to us courtesy of The Trump and Biden Administrations, both administrations FED Appointees, and the last two Congresses
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wrote on 1 Nov 2023, 22:50 last edited by
Oh, and while it’s great that oil production has recovered from COVID and the early Biden Admin policies, most Americans aren’t as concerned about the actual levels of production as they are about the actual costs of fuel. And the fact remains that fuel is still extremely expensive and a larger burden in the typical family than it was 4 years ago.
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I think that it’s impacting more people than you think. There were around 3,000,000 residential mortgages processed this year. Now granted, that number is WAAAAAAYYYY down, but 3,000,000 is still 3% of US households and we still need the data for the 3rd quarter. By the end of the year we could be approaching 6% of households. There were also around 8,000,000 new mortgages executed in 2022. The interest rates weren’t quite where they are today, but are damn close. Now let’s add on pre-existing ARMS. That accounts for approximately 3% of existing mortgages prior to the rate hikes. So how many more households does that add?
Now, let’s talk about Commercial Mortgages. Landlords normally finance their investment properties, and many use ARMS. There’s been a lot of talk and aspersions cast on landlords recently, blaming greed for rising rents and ignoring the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of property owners that still haven’t been able to collect back COVID rent, are facing significantly higher maintenance costs, and are between a rock and a hard place on their mortgages.
Now let’s talk about home equity lines of credit… Or families that were planning on refinancing to help pay for needed repairs and such?
How many industries are strongly reliant on the housing market? Hell, even the piano industry is strongly affected by the housing market.
No, this is affecting millions and millions of households. My bet is close to half of US households are being hurt. This is a lot bigger than just the Gen Z’s that are having to hold off on purchasing due to the interest rates.
And all brought to us courtesy of The Trump and Biden Administrations, both administrations FED Appointees, and the last two Congresses
wrote on 1 Nov 2023, 23:25 last edited by Doctor Phibes 11 Jan 2023, 23:32@LuFins-Dad said in Bidenomics At Work:
And all brought to us courtesy of The Trump and Biden Administrations, both administrations FED Appointees, and the last two Congresses
Not really. It's a global phenomenon. If you think it's bad trying to find affordable housing here, try the UK and Canada
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wrote on 1 Nov 2023, 23:42 last edited by
The average American voter doesn't give a fig about the global economy. They do care about their kitchen table issues. Things like the price of fuel, food, clothing, utilities and how much they'd like to get rid of their hooptie ride and buy a decent used car or a new one, but they can't afford it
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@LuFins-Dad said in Bidenomics At Work:
And all brought to us courtesy of The Trump and Biden Administrations, both administrations FED Appointees, and the last two Congresses
Not really. It's a global phenomenon. If you think it's bad trying to find affordable housing here, try the UK and Canada
wrote on 1 Nov 2023, 23:52 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Bidenomics At Work:
@LuFins-Dad said in Bidenomics At Work:
And all brought to us courtesy of The Trump and Biden Administrations, both administrations FED Appointees, and the last two Congresses
Not really. It's a global phenomenon.
US Dollar is the most commonly traded currency in the world, at a rate three times the Euro, the next most common. So yes, what happens to the US Dollar, and the actions of the Fed have significant global impact. When the Fed dumps $3 TRILLION into the global economy, it’s going to impact everyone. Plus, the EU and other currencies followed suit later in 2020 and 2021, which exacerbated the issues, but make no mistake… The US has the largest economy in the world. In fact, you would need to add the economies of Japan, Germany, India, the UK, France, Italy, Canada, and South Korea to match it. So when it gets sick, everyone suffers.