Bye, Rapinoe
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Incidentally, I'd literally never heard of the women's world cup until I came to live in the US. Presumably it only got reported on because the US used to win it.
Now of course, it's all the rage because of equality and whatnot. Still, I don't think I've ever watched a game of women's football.
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I think the men's game boring. And it's played at a much, much higher level than the women's...
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I think the men's game boring. And it's played at a much, much higher level than the women's...
@Jolly said in Bye, Rapinoe:
I think the men's game boring. And it's played at a much, much higher level than the women's...
You never grew up watching it, so you don't like it. I feel the same way about baseball, hockey and American football (and I'm not just being snarky here, I've tried to watch them). There are exceptions, but unless you watch a sport growing up, it's not typically something that sticks. Also, if there's no emotional involvement (i.e. supporting a team), it's a lot harder to care about what is essentially a bunch of overpaid knobheads running around.
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@Horace said in Bye, Rapinoe:
Soccer is immediately comprehensible, not so baseball or football.
Americans don't watch baseball and football because they enjoy the complexity or incomprehensibility, or cricket would be more popular. Also, I'm pretty sure that baseball is pretty much just rounders, which we used to play at elementary school, but nobody watches as a spectator sport. It's a cultural thing. You grow up watching a sport, you keep doing so.
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@Horace said in Bye, Rapinoe:
Soccer is immediately comprehensible, not so baseball or football.
Americans don't watch baseball and football because they enjoy the complexity or incomprehensibility, or cricket would be more popular. Also, I'm pretty sure that baseball is pretty much just rounders, which we used to play at elementary school, but nobody watches as a spectator sport. It's a cultural thing. You grow up watching a sport, you keep doing so.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Bye, Rapinoe:
@Horace said in Bye, Rapinoe:
Soccer is immediately comprehensible, not so baseball or football.
Americans don't watch baseball and football because they enjoy the complexity,
That's not my point. My point is that new viewers are lost anyway. Soccer has no barrier to entry.
I know it's enticing to just claim everything is cultural and all sports are the same, but there might be interesting points to be made by snorkeling a centimeter under the surface of the discussion.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Bye, Rapinoe:
@Horace said in Bye, Rapinoe:
Soccer is immediately comprehensible, not so baseball or football.
Americans don't watch baseball and football because they enjoy the complexity,
That's not my point. My point is that new viewers are lost anyway. Soccer has no barrier to entry.
I know it's enticing to just claim everything is cultural and all sports are the same, but there might be interesting points to be made by snorkeling a centimeter under the surface of the discussion.
@Horace said in Bye, Rapinoe:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Bye, Rapinoe:
@Horace said in Bye, Rapinoe:
Soccer is immediately comprehensible, not so baseball or football.
Americans don't watch baseball and football because they enjoy the complexity,
That's not my point. My point is that new viewers are lost anyway. Soccer has no barrier to entry.
I know it's enticing to just claim everything is cultural and all sports are the same, but there might be interesting points to be made by snorkeling a centimeter under the surface of the discussion.
Well, OK, not all sports are the same. American sports are
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They say American football has very little action, but that doesn't take into account the time for replays and reflection on the action of the previous play. there's a huge amount of choreographed stuff happening on the field each play, so the time between plays can always be used to zoom in on pieces of it. The commercials are tedious, of course.
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Baseball doesn't have much action that I've seen. It makes cricket look positively action-packed.
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Baseball doesn't have much action that I've seen. It makes cricket look positively action-packed.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Bye, Rapinoe:
Baseball doesn't have much action that I've seen. It makes cricket look positively action-packed.
Baseball is a game within a game, admitted.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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American football has a gazillion things going on every play.
- Down and distance is weighed against defensive tendencies, while considering not leaning on offensive tendencies too much. This determines the plays (you never send in just one) and the player personnel package.
- While the offense is doing this, the defense is doing much the same.
- The QB will bring the offense to the line, run the called play or audible to another play. Sometimes, he may have to reset his formation on the fly.
- When the ball is snapped, 11 guys on either side of the ball have a job to do. Perfect execution by the offense often results in a score. Perfect execution by the defense results in no gain or loss.
- And this happens over and over again, every 40 seconds.
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The real problem is that you chaps left the Empire too early, before we'd developed proper sport, so you were left trying to develop your own in a cultural wasteland of your own choosing.
I do actually find this question quite interesting - the US is clearly an outlier in that it doesn't really focus on the same team sports as much of the rest of the world.
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Do you know what it costs to dress out an American football player?
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@Jolly said in Bye, Rapinoe:
Do you know what it costs to dress out an American football player?
Probably about as much as an F1 tire.
It's expensive, but it's not F1 expensive.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Bye, Rapinoe:
Baseball doesn't have much action that I've seen. It makes cricket look positively action-packed.
Baseball is a game within a game, admitted.
@Jolly said in Bye, Rapinoe:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Bye, Rapinoe:
Baseball doesn't have much action that I've seen. It makes cricket look positively action-packed.
Baseball is a game within a game, admitted.
We've been watching more baseball this year than ever. My appreciation for the 'game within a game', as Jolly says, has come back from when I played and knew it so well. Defense is awesome to watch in action.
