Bye, Rapinoe

[Doctor Phibes]

Piers is a cunt either way

[Jolly]

I just think you're jealous.

[taiwan_girl]

[Jolly]

Your crotch must stay sore, riding the fence, ever-seeking some example to make sure " things balance out". The women's team, through a series of outspoken and idiot utterances made their bed. The national anthem was just the cherry on top of a garbage sundae.

They deserve every rotten piece of produce thrown their way.

[taiwan_girl]

At least President Trump kept it classy

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"The ‘shocking and totally unexpected’ loss by the U.S. Women’s Soccer Team to Sweden is fully emblematic of what is happening to the [sic] our once great Nation under Crooked Joe Biden," Trump wrote. "Many of our players were openly hostile to America – No other country behaved in such a manner, or even close. WOKE EQUALS FAILURE.

"Nice shot Megan, the USA is going to Hell!!! MAGA."
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So, if I understand correctly, if the US team would have sang the national anthem, they would have won the game?

[Jolly]

Lady, stay on the fucking subject.

Trump did something once. Once. I'm aghast. Appalled. Stricken prone, crying tears in my ears over a single fucking nothing burger.

This U.S. Women's team has a history. They sued for equal pay, when they couldn't produce equal butts in the seats. Their "spokesman", Rapinoe -who is well past her sell by date and shouldn't have been on the team - has done her best Kapernick impression, from taking a knee during the anthem to mixing her personal politics with the sport. She, a green-headed member of the LGBTQ brigade, has been an outspoken advocate if putting men on the women's team...If they identify as female.

So, you've got a team of women, who hate the country they play for, being led by a deranged loon who may hate the country more than the rest of the team does. A country that gives them the freedom to pursue their dream of playing a game for a living.

And you want to compare this to an isolated incident by Trump?

I'm sorry, but that's moronic.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in Bye, Rapinoe:

I just think you're jealous.

[Doctor Phibes]

Incidentally, I'd literally never heard of the women's world cup until I came to live in the US. Presumably it only got reported on because the US used to win it.

Now of course, it's all the rage because of equality and whatnot. Still, I don't think I've ever watched a game of women's football.

[Jolly]

I think the men's game boring. And it's played at a much, much higher level than the women's...

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in Bye, Rapinoe:

I think the men's game boring. And it's played at a much, much higher level than the women's...

You never grew up watching it, so you don't like it. I feel the same way about baseball, hockey and American football (and I'm not just being snarky here, I've tried to watch them). There are exceptions, but unless you watch a sport growing up, it's not typically something that sticks. Also, if there's no emotional involvement (i.e. supporting a team), it's a lot harder to care about what is essentially a bunch of overpaid knobheads running around.

[Horace]

Soccer is immediately comprehensible, not so baseball or football.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in Bye, Rapinoe:

Soccer is immediately comprehensible, not so baseball or football.

Americans don't watch baseball and football because they enjoy the complexity or incomprehensibility, or cricket would be more popular. Also, I'm pretty sure that baseball is pretty much just rounders, which we used to play at elementary school, but nobody watches as a spectator sport. It's a cultural thing. You grow up watching a sport, you keep doing so.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Bye, Rapinoe:

@Horace said in Bye, Rapinoe:

Soccer is immediately comprehensible, not so baseball or football.

Americans don't watch baseball and football because they enjoy the complexity,

That's not my point. My point is that new viewers are lost anyway. Soccer has no barrier to entry.

I know it's enticing to just claim everything is cultural and all sports are the same, but there might be interesting points to be made by snorkeling a centimeter under the surface of the discussion.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in Bye, Rapinoe:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Bye, Rapinoe:

@Horace said in Bye, Rapinoe:

Soccer is immediately comprehensible, not so baseball or football.

Americans don't watch baseball and football because they enjoy the complexity,

That's not my point. My point is that new viewers are lost anyway. Soccer has no barrier to entry.

I know it's enticing to just claim everything is cultural and all sports are the same, but there might be interesting points to be made by snorkeling a centimeter under the surface of the discussion.

Well, OK, not all sports are the same. American sports are shit primarily concerned with allowing commercial breaks every few minutes.

[Jolly]

Actually, the most popular American sports are characterized by complexity and extreme amounts of action.

[Horace]

They say American football has very little action, but that doesn't take into account the time for replays and reflection on the action of the previous play. there's a huge amount of choreographed stuff happening on the field each play, so the time between plays can always be used to zoom in on pieces of it. The commercials are tedious, of course.

[Doctor Phibes]

Baseball doesn't have much action that I've seen. It makes cricket look positively action-packed.

[Jolly]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Bye, Rapinoe:

Baseball doesn't have much action that I've seen. It makes cricket look positively action-packed.

Baseball is a game within a game, admitted.

[Jolly]

American football has a gazillion things going on every play.

1. Down and distance is weighed against defensive tendencies, while considering not leaning on offensive tendencies too much. This determines the plays (you never send in just one) and the player personnel package.
2. While the offense is doing this, the defense is doing much the same.
3. The QB will bring the offense to the line, run the called play or audible to another play. Sometimes, he may have to reset his formation on the fly.
4. When the ball is snapped, 11 guys on either side of the ball have a job to do. Perfect execution by the offense often results in a score. Perfect execution by the defense results in no gain or loss.
5. And this happens over and over again, every 40 seconds.

[Doctor Phibes]

The real problem is that you chaps left the Empire too early, before we'd developed proper sport, so you were left trying to develop your own in a cultural wasteland of your own choosing.

I do actually find this question quite interesting - the US is clearly an outlier in that it doesn't really focus on the same team sports as much of the rest of the world.