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Devon Archer: "Lock him up - TODAY."

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  • JonJ Offline
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    Jon
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    So how’s the hearing go?

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #5

      If true, Archer linked Biden with several of Hunter's phone calls.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JonJ Offline
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        Jon
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        #6

        Is that all he did?

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          He said that on at least 20 calls, Biden was brought in on speakerphone to "help sell the brand".

          This is in direct conflict with The Resident's vehement assertions he knew nothing of Hunter's business dealings.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            A FOX piece:

            https://www.foxnews.com/politics/devon-archer-confirms-joe-biden-lied-about-knowledge-hunters-business-dealings-comer-says

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JonJ Offline
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              Jon
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              Did they ask Archer if Biden ever talked about business on any of those calls? Was he actually involved in any business dealings? Or was he just exchanging pleasantries with people his son introduced him to?

              You’d think Comer would want to know these things and over the course of five hours might have thought to ask him.

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                Jolly
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                I didn't listen to the hearing, but I'm sure some video will be available today.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  #11

                  Right. Carefully curated.

                  Let’s see if he releases the transcript, which, according to reports that used additional sources besides just Comer’s office, answered those questions.

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                  • JonJ Jon

                    Did they ask Archer if Biden ever talked about business on any of those calls? Was he actually involved in any business dealings? Or was he just exchanging pleasantries with people his son introduced him to?

                    You’d think Comer would want to know these things and over the course of five hours might have thought to ask him.

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                    George K
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                    @Jon said in "Lock him up - TODAY.":

                    Did they ask Archer if Biden ever talked about business on any of those calls? Was he actually involved in any business dealings? Or was he just exchanging pleasantries with people his son introduced him to?

                    According to the Democrat congressman (Goldman?) that's all it was.

                    Because, in every multimillion dollar deal that someone is invited to asks their dad to sit in and talk about the weather, right?

                    You’d think Comer would want to know these things and over the course of five hours might have thought to ask him.

                    Bidens (except for Hunter) aren't stupid. I would be surprised if there was actually an explicit quid pro quo. Though, you never know, son of a bitch, one might turn up.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      The key question is whether Hunter was selling the illusion of influence or whether his dad truly was involved.

                      Archer’s testimony pointed to the former.

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                        George K
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                        WSJ has a good review:

                        https://www.wsj.com/articles/devon-archer-joined-calls-joe-biden-son-hunter-biden-264e66f0?st=wiqj9s32k3ogwik&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          TUrley:

                          The new spin was to admit that the senior Biden did speak with Hunter's business associates but only to exchange "niceties" when he was put on speakerphone at meetings and dinners. Goldman noted that Archer testified the elder Biden did not discuss "any business dealings or transactions” and said it would be a "preposterous premise to think that a father should not say hello to people that the son is at dinner with.”

                          What is truly preposterous is Goldman’s suggestion that these figures would have discussed corrupt deliverables on a speakerphone in restaurants. That was not the point of the calls. The point would have been that Hunter and his team were selling access, and the calls with his vice president/father confirmed that he was deliverable.

                          In Washington, influence-peddling is an art form, and the Bidens appear to be political Rembrandts. Demands are conveyed through as few people as possible. For example, Archer reportedly detailed how, in 2015, Mykola Zlochevsky and Vadym Pozharski, two executives of the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma, pressed Hunter to "get help from D.C." to fire a Ukrainian prosecutor who was investigating Burisma for corruption. Archer reportedly said that Hunter, Zlochevsky and Pozharski stepped away to make a call.

                          That is how it is done — not on a speakerphone in a popular restaurant filled with political and media figures while ordering more breadsticks.

                          Then-Vice President Biden, who oversaw U.S. support for Ukraine, later made a billion-dollar aid package dependent on the prosecutor’s firing. The prosecutor was promptly fired, as Joe Biden himself later bragged.

                          That is why Hunter allegedly could tell Chinese business associates that "The Bidens are the best at doing exactly what the Chairman wants." What that corporate chairman wanted, of course, was influence.

                          Devon Archer's new evidence apparently brings this picture further into focus: As Hunter and his partners pitched "the brand," Joe Biden apparently supplied the bona fides by stopping by lunches or calling into dinners.

                          That would be all that was needed to net millions of dollars.

                          In weeks to come, Congress is expected to release information on additional foreign payments going to the Biden family from additional sources. That’s the value of branding. As Starbucks founder Howard Schultz once observed, “If people believe they share values with a company, they will stay loyal to the brand.” It appears that the Bidens shared some values with the foreign oligarchs and operatives who embraced their brand. The rest was — well, in the words of Rep. Goldman, just “niceties.”

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            #16

                            The lies and spin are pretty neat.

                            We've gone from "I've never talked to my son about his business", to "I don't know anything about my son's business", to "It's none of your business".

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • MikM Away
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                              Mik
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                              So the VEEP has time to pop in on calls with his son's dinner companions/business associates just to be nice and help his son get scads of money for stuff he has no idea how to do.

                              Riiiight.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Jolly
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                                To be fair, it all hinges on verification. Just like the press and the Dems verified those Trump pee-pee tapes or impeached a President for asking about Ukranian corruption...Of which it is blindingly obvious that is something that has nothing to do with the Bidens.

                                Or the he said/she said of some of the New York silliness.

                                Yes, it's all about verification without equivocation for justification...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  George K
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                                  #19

                                  Son of a bitch!

                                  Devon Archer testified Monday that Hunter Biden and top executives of Burisma Holdings "called D.C." in 2015 to ask the Obama administration to help fire the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating the firm, a source familiar with his testimony told Fox News Digital.

                                  He also testified about an interaction in December 2015, involving Burisma CEO Mykola Zlochevsky and Vadym Pozharski — an executive at the firm.

                                  Archer and Hunter split image
                                  Devon Archer, left, and Hunter Biden, right (Fox News)
                                  Archer said Zlochevsky and Pozharski "placed constant pressure on Hunter Biden to get help from D.C." in getting Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin ousted. Shokin was investigating Burisma for corruption.

                                  According to the source, Archer testified that in December 2015, Hunter Biden, Zlochevsky and Pozharski "called D.C." to discuss the matter. Archer testified that Biden, Zlochevsky and Pozharski stepped away to make the call.

                                  It is unclear if Hunter and the Burisma executives spoke directly to Joe Biden on the matter.

                                  At the time, though, Joe Biden was in charge of U.S.-Ukraine policy for the Obama administration.

                                  A source said that Archer testified that just days later, on Dec. 9, 2015, Joe Biden traveled to Ukraine and made a speech. Biden, during the speech, said the government needed to fix the Ukrainian prosecutor's office.

                                  "This is the most revealing aspect of Archer’s testimony and maybe the most important in our entire investigation so far," House Judiciary Committee Jim Jordan told Fox News Digital.

                                  The testimony comes after Fox News Digital reported on an unclassified version of an FBI-generated FD-1023 form, which contained allegations that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden allegedly "coerced" Zlochevsky to pay them millions of dollars in exchange for their help in getting Shokin fired.

                                  Biden has acknowledged that when he was vice president, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire prosecutor Shokin. At the time, Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, and at the time, Hunter had a highly lucrative role on the board receiving thousands of dollars per month.

                                  The then-vice president threatened to withhold $1 billion of critical U.S. aid if Shokin was not fired.

                                  Remember the cause of Impeachment #1 - that phone call...

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    I wonder if Mr. Biden is the only person accepting this sort of bribe.

                                    Can we assume that the Chinese have bought many of our elected officials?

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                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Comer still hasn’t released the transcript, Democrats on the committee have been calling for him to do so.

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                                        • JonJ Jon

                                          Comer still hasn’t released the transcript, Democrats on the committee have been calling for him to do so.

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                                          @Jon said in "Lock him up - TODAY.":

                                          Comer still hasn’t released the transcript

                                          He learned from Schiff...

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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