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Devon Archer: "Lock him up - TODAY."

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #14

    WSJ has a good review:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/devon-archer-joined-calls-joe-biden-son-hunter-biden-264e66f0?st=wiqj9s32k3ogwik&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #15

      TUrley:

      The new spin was to admit that the senior Biden did speak with Hunter's business associates but only to exchange "niceties" when he was put on speakerphone at meetings and dinners. Goldman noted that Archer testified the elder Biden did not discuss "any business dealings or transactions” and said it would be a "preposterous premise to think that a father should not say hello to people that the son is at dinner with.”

      What is truly preposterous is Goldman’s suggestion that these figures would have discussed corrupt deliverables on a speakerphone in restaurants. That was not the point of the calls. The point would have been that Hunter and his team were selling access, and the calls with his vice president/father confirmed that he was deliverable.

      In Washington, influence-peddling is an art form, and the Bidens appear to be political Rembrandts. Demands are conveyed through as few people as possible. For example, Archer reportedly detailed how, in 2015, Mykola Zlochevsky and Vadym Pozharski, two executives of the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma, pressed Hunter to "get help from D.C." to fire a Ukrainian prosecutor who was investigating Burisma for corruption. Archer reportedly said that Hunter, Zlochevsky and Pozharski stepped away to make a call.

      That is how it is done — not on a speakerphone in a popular restaurant filled with political and media figures while ordering more breadsticks.

      Then-Vice President Biden, who oversaw U.S. support for Ukraine, later made a billion-dollar aid package dependent on the prosecutor’s firing. The prosecutor was promptly fired, as Joe Biden himself later bragged.

      That is why Hunter allegedly could tell Chinese business associates that "The Bidens are the best at doing exactly what the Chairman wants." What that corporate chairman wanted, of course, was influence.

      Devon Archer's new evidence apparently brings this picture further into focus: As Hunter and his partners pitched "the brand," Joe Biden apparently supplied the bona fides by stopping by lunches or calling into dinners.

      That would be all that was needed to net millions of dollars.

      In weeks to come, Congress is expected to release information on additional foreign payments going to the Biden family from additional sources. That’s the value of branding. As Starbucks founder Howard Schultz once observed, “If people believe they share values with a company, they will stay loyal to the brand.” It appears that the Bidens shared some values with the foreign oligarchs and operatives who embraced their brand. The rest was — well, in the words of Rep. Goldman, just “niceties.”

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by Jolly
        #16

        The lies and spin are pretty neat.

        We've gone from "I've never talked to my son about his business", to "I don't know anything about my son's business", to "It's none of your business".

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • MikM Away
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          Mik
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          #17

          So the VEEP has time to pop in on calls with his son's dinner companions/business associates just to be nice and help his son get scads of money for stuff he has no idea how to do.

          Riiiight.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #18

            To be fair, it all hinges on verification. Just like the press and the Dems verified those Trump pee-pee tapes or impeached a President for asking about Ukranian corruption...Of which it is blindingly obvious that is something that has nothing to do with the Bidens.

            Or the he said/she said of some of the New York silliness.

            Yes, it's all about verification without equivocation for justification...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by George K
              #19

              Son of a bitch!

              Devon Archer testified Monday that Hunter Biden and top executives of Burisma Holdings "called D.C." in 2015 to ask the Obama administration to help fire the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating the firm, a source familiar with his testimony told Fox News Digital.

              He also testified about an interaction in December 2015, involving Burisma CEO Mykola Zlochevsky and Vadym Pozharski — an executive at the firm.

              Archer and Hunter split image
              Devon Archer, left, and Hunter Biden, right (Fox News)
              Archer said Zlochevsky and Pozharski "placed constant pressure on Hunter Biden to get help from D.C." in getting Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin ousted. Shokin was investigating Burisma for corruption.

              According to the source, Archer testified that in December 2015, Hunter Biden, Zlochevsky and Pozharski "called D.C." to discuss the matter. Archer testified that Biden, Zlochevsky and Pozharski stepped away to make the call.

              It is unclear if Hunter and the Burisma executives spoke directly to Joe Biden on the matter.

              At the time, though, Joe Biden was in charge of U.S.-Ukraine policy for the Obama administration.

              A source said that Archer testified that just days later, on Dec. 9, 2015, Joe Biden traveled to Ukraine and made a speech. Biden, during the speech, said the government needed to fix the Ukrainian prosecutor's office.

              "This is the most revealing aspect of Archer’s testimony and maybe the most important in our entire investigation so far," House Judiciary Committee Jim Jordan told Fox News Digital.

              The testimony comes after Fox News Digital reported on an unclassified version of an FBI-generated FD-1023 form, which contained allegations that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden allegedly "coerced" Zlochevsky to pay them millions of dollars in exchange for their help in getting Shokin fired.

              Biden has acknowledged that when he was vice president, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire prosecutor Shokin. At the time, Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, and at the time, Hunter had a highly lucrative role on the board receiving thousands of dollars per month.

              The then-vice president threatened to withhold $1 billion of critical U.S. aid if Shokin was not fired.

              Remember the cause of Impeachment #1 - that phone call...

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • CopperC Offline
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                Copper
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                #20

                I wonder if Mr. Biden is the only person accepting this sort of bribe.

                Can we assume that the Chinese have bought many of our elected officials?

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
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                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • JonJ Offline
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                    Jon
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                    #22

                    Comer still hasn’t released the transcript, Democrats on the committee have been calling for him to do so.

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                    • JonJ Jon

                      Comer still hasn’t released the transcript, Democrats on the committee have been calling for him to do so.

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #23

                      @Jon said in "Lock him up - TODAY.":

                      Comer still hasn’t released the transcript

                      He learned from Schiff...

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • JonJ Jon

                        Comer still hasn’t released the transcript, Democrats on the committee have been calling for him to do so.

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #24

                        @Jon said in "Lock him up - TODAY.":

                        Comer still hasn’t released the transcript, Democrats on the committee have been calling for him to do so.

                        Yeah, still waiting for Schiff's testimony in the Russia Russia Russia "investigation."

                        But since you asked, it took 3 days, not 3 years....

                        https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/biden-investigation-full-devon-archer-testimony-released

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
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                          #25

                          QPQ

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
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                            #26

                            Yeah but there's no signed receipt for services provided.

                            Education is extremely important.

                            George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                            • HoraceH Horace

                              Yeah but there's no signed receipt for services provided.

                              George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by George K
                              #27

                              @Horace said in "Lock him up - TODAY.":

                              Yeah but there's no signed receipt for services provided.

                              Exactly. As I posted earlier, it's really common for a drug-addicted, dishonorably-discharged, (alleged) felon, to put his father, the Vice-President of the United States, on speakerphone during a business meeting to discuss the weather and other pleasantries.

                              It's the Chicago Way, Chumbolones.

                              The other question, that few are asking, is this: What are the odds that the President knew nothing about this?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #28

                                alt text

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @Horace said in "Lock him up - TODAY.":

                                  Yeah but there's no signed receipt for services provided.

                                  Exactly. As I posted earlier, it's really common for a drug-addicted, dishonorably-discharged, (alleged) felon, to put his father, the Vice-President of the United States, on speakerphone during a business meeting to discuss the weather and other pleasantries.

                                  It's the Chicago Way, Chumbolones.

                                  The other question, that few are asking, is this: What are the odds that the President knew nothing about this?

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #29

                                  @George-K said in "Lock him up - TODAY.":

                                  @Horace said in "Lock him up - TODAY.":

                                  Yeah but there's no signed receipt for services provided.

                                  Exactly. As I posted earlier, it's really common for a drug-addicted, dishonorably-discharged, (alleged) felon, to put his father, the Vice-President of the United States, on speakerphone during a business meeting to discuss the weather and other pleasantries.

                                  It's the Chicago Way, Chumbolones.

                                  The other question, that few are asking, is this: What are the odds that the President knew nothing about this?

                                  Never bet against a sure thing. Like gravity. Or the wavelength of visible light.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JonJ Jon

                                    The key question is whether Hunter was selling the illusion of influence or whether his dad truly was involved.

                                    Archer’s testimony pointed to the former.

                                    George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #30

                                    @Jon said in "Lock him up - TODAY.":

                                    The key question is whether Hunter was selling the illusion of influence or whether his dad truly was involved.

                                    Archer’s testimony pointed to the former.

                                    No, it was Goldman's comment that points to that, not what Archer said.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
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                                      #31

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                        #32

                                        As seen on tv...The day after Archer's testimony, NBC and MSNBC mentioned his name 48 times. They mentioned Trump's name over 750 times.

                                        As much as possible, the fix is in.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
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                                          Biden campaign lashes out at New York Post

                                          Joe Biden’s campaign is punching back at a New York Post story that alleged a direct link between the Democratic presidential nominee and his son’s business dealings.

                                          Top Biden advisers who staffed him during his vice presidency, citing their own recollections as well as a review of Biden’s official schedules, sharply rejected the Post’s suggestion that Biden met with a representative of Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings in 2015. And social media companies throttled sharing of the article on their platforms, fueling complaints from conservatives that information critical of the Bidens was being censored.

                                          The story, which ran on the front page of the New York tabloid under the banner headline “Biden Secret E-mails,” accused the then-vice president of meeting Vadym Pozharskyi, a top adviser to Burisma, whose board Biden’s son had joined at the time. Allies of President Donald Trump seized on the purported revelation to argue that it proved Biden had abused his position to intervene with the Ukrainian government on his son’s behalf — and that he had lied when he insisted he had steered clear of his son’s business dealings.

                                          In a statement, Biden campaign spokesman Andrew Bates said, “we have reviewed Joe Biden’s official schedules from the time and no meeting, as alleged by the New York Post, ever took place.”

                                          https://jonathanturley.org/2023/08/06/remember-that-biden-dinner-that-never-occurred-well-it-did/

                                          A later Washington Post article in 2021 acknowledged that Joe Biden might have stopped by despite the prior denials. However, it reported that a “White House individual with knowledge of Joe Biden’s schedules said the decision to see Father Alex [Alex Karloutsos]” at the dinner was made late that day after the schedule was completed but Biden “didn’t even sit down” and that he “was not part of the dinner or part of the dinner discussion.” Again, problem solved.

                                          Not quite. Former Biden associate Devon Archer just told Congress Joe Biden did attend, did sit down, and did engage all of their clients, including “Vadym P. from Burisma.” Archer said that, when Biden arrived, Biden “shook everybody’s hand” and joined their conversation. Moreover, emails show that it was long known that Karloutsos would be there in attendance.

                                          Archer’s account supports an April 2015 email from Burisma board adviser Vadym Pozharskyi, who wrote Hunter Biden the day after the dinner to thank him for allowing him to meet his father and spend “some time together.” “It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure.” Pozharskyi added, “as we spoke yesterday evening, would be great to meet today for a quick coffee,” he continued. “What do you think? I could come to you [sic] office somewhere around noon or so, before or on my way to airport.”

                                          A month before the dinner, Hunter and Archer discussed the dinner guests, including “Pozharskyi,” who was listed as “Vadim” and “Vadym.” Archer added “Obviously save a seat for your guy.” Biden associates were told not to refer to Joe Biden by name and referred to him as “your guy,” “my guy” or “the Big Guy.”

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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