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  • R Renauda
    24 Nov 2023, 22:38

    As much I anticipated Joachim Pheonix in this role, he had an impossibly hard act to follow from the onset against Rod Steiger’s portrayal of Napoleon in Waterloo (1970).

    I’ll wait for the Blu-ray.

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    George K
    wrote on 24 Nov 2023, 22:46 last edited by
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    @Renauda said in Joaquin Phoenix as Napoleon?:

    Rod Steiger’s portrayal of Napoleon in Waterloo

    Link to video

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      24 Nov 2023, 22:46

      @Renauda said in Joaquin Phoenix as Napoleon?:

      Rod Steiger’s portrayal of Napoleon in Waterloo

      Link to video

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      Renauda
      wrote on 24 Nov 2023, 23:16 last edited by Renauda
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      @George-K

      That’s a fairly decent and entertaining synopsis of the film.

      Certainly one of my time favourites. Steiger was about the right age too when he did it - 44 years old

      Elbows up!

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      • G George K
        24 Nov 2023, 22:26

        Thanks for your thoughts.

        Worth seeing on a big screen, or will it be good enough for a reasonably-sized TV?

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        Wim
        wrote on 25 Nov 2023, 08:42 last edited by
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        @George-K Big screen is imho better most of the time, but a reasonably-sized tv will do

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        • W Wim
          25 Nov 2023, 08:42

          @George-K Big screen is imho better most of the time, but a reasonably-sized tv will do

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          Renauda
          wrote on 25 Nov 2023, 17:39 last edited by
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          @Wim

          I agree cinema is better. I just find the cost of going to the cinema has gotten out control. Besides that I dislike crowded venues such as cinemas, concerts and sport events and try to avoid them whenever possible. I am the sort who goes to the grocery store 5 minutes before they unlock the doors at 7 am. on Wednesday or Thursday mornings just to avoid other shoppers (and take full advantage of soon to expire mark downs of perishables).

          Elbows up!

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          • R Renauda
            25 Nov 2023, 17:39

            @Wim

            I agree cinema is better. I just find the cost of going to the cinema has gotten out control. Besides that I dislike crowded venues such as cinemas, concerts and sport events and try to avoid them whenever possible. I am the sort who goes to the grocery store 5 minutes before they unlock the doors at 7 am. on Wednesday or Thursday mornings just to avoid other shoppers (and take full advantage of soon to expire mark downs of perishables).

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            George K
            wrote on 25 Nov 2023, 17:50 last edited by
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            @Renauda you're our most lovable misanthrope.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • R Renauda
              25 Nov 2023, 17:39

              @Wim

              I agree cinema is better. I just find the cost of going to the cinema has gotten out control. Besides that I dislike crowded venues such as cinemas, concerts and sport events and try to avoid them whenever possible. I am the sort who goes to the grocery store 5 minutes before they unlock the doors at 7 am. on Wednesday or Thursday mornings just to avoid other shoppers (and take full advantage of soon to expire mark downs of perishables).

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              Renauda
              wrote on 26 Nov 2023, 17:09 last edited by Renauda
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              Harumpff.

              Elbows up!

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                Mik
                wrote on 26 Nov 2023, 20:08 last edited by
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                I’m not a big fan of crowds either.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  George K
                  wrote on 26 Nov 2023, 21:52 last edited by
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                  Four hour cut next year:

                  https://www.techradar.com/streaming/ridley-scotts-napoleon-is-getting-an-epic-four-hour-cut-but-only-on-apple-tv-plus

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 26 Nov 2023, 21:58 last edited by
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                    I'll watch it then. The recent version seems like it's missed the mark. I don't mind a 4-hour movie if it's good.

                    Please love yourself.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 26 Nov 2023, 23:05 last edited by
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                      The Thread:

                      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1728292482121941213.html

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        bachophile
                        wrote on 28 Nov 2023, 20:02 last edited by
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                        IMG_1170.jpeg

                        caption this

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                        • B bachophile
                          28 Nov 2023, 20:02

                          IMG_1170.jpeg

                          caption this

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 28 Nov 2023, 20:31 last edited by Renauda
                          #30

                          @bachophile said in Joaquin Phoenix as Napoleon?:

                          IMG_1170.jpeg

                          So you were told that we get off at what station? ….Waterloo Station?

                          Elbows up!

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 28 Nov 2023, 20:38 last edited by
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                            The (American) Civil War was the first war to use railroads, encouraged by President Lincoln — himself a former railroad lawyer — who understood how vital they were for moving men and supplies.

                            https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/feature/civil-war-innovations/#:~:text=The Civil War was the,for moving men and supplies.

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                            • R Renauda
                              28 Nov 2023, 20:31

                              @bachophile said in Joaquin Phoenix as Napoleon?:

                              IMG_1170.jpeg

                              So you were told that we get off at what station? ….Waterloo Station?

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                              George K
                              wrote on 28 Nov 2023, 21:41 last edited by
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                              @Renauda said in Joaquin Phoenix as Napoleon?:

                              So you were told that we get off at what station? ….Waterloo Station?

                              I took the Lake Shore Limited from Waterloo to Chicago...

                              Screenshot 2023-11-28 at 3.40.32 PM.png

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                28 Nov 2023, 20:38

                                The (American) Civil War was the first war to use railroads, encouraged by President Lincoln — himself a former railroad lawyer — who understood how vital they were for moving men and supplies.

                                https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/feature/civil-war-innovations/#:~:text=The Civil War was the,for moving men and supplies.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 28 Nov 2023, 21:48 last edited by Renauda
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                                @Copper said in Joaquin Phoenix as Napoleon?:

                                The (American) Civil War was the first war to use railroads, encouraged by President Lincoln — himself a former railroad lawyer — who understood how vital they were for moving men and supplies.

                                https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/feature/civil-war-innovations/#:~:text=The Civil War was the,for moving men and supplies.

                                Not entirely accurate. The Prussians were the first to use the railway in war - as troop transport during the First Schleswig War a dozen years before the US Civil War:

                                https://historum.com/t/first-schleswig-war-transport.2712/

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on 28 Nov 2023, 23:01 last edited by
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                                  The Wiki description is slightly different

                                  The American Civil War in 1861–1865 was the first large war in which railroads were both a major tool and a major target of military action.

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_railways#

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 28 Nov 2023, 23:26 last edited by Renauda
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                                    Good for WiKi.

                                    Either way, there were no railroads during Napoleon’s time to move his or his enemies’ armies and supplies.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 30 Nov 2023, 21:51 last edited by George K
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                                      The Critical Drinker..."Napoleon, directed by Ridley Scott and starring Joaquim Phoenix, was the historical epic that everyone hoped would close out the year in spectacular fashion. Unfortunately, it turned out to be something... different. "

                                      Link to video

                                      "Napoleon by Ridley Scott makes Braveheart look like Master and Commander."

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • G George K
                                        30 Nov 2023, 21:51

                                        The Critical Drinker..."Napoleon, directed by Ridley Scott and starring Joaquim Phoenix, was the historical epic that everyone hoped would close out the year in spectacular fashion. Unfortunately, it turned out to be something... different. "

                                        Link to video

                                        "Napoleon by Ridley Scott makes Braveheart look like Master and Commander."

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 30 Nov 2023, 23:16 last edited by
                                        #37

                                        @George-K

                                        Ouch.

                                        From what I have read about Napoleon’s life, I have very little to no sympathy at all for the historical character Josephine.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • R Renauda
                                          30 Nov 2023, 23:16

                                          @George-K

                                          Ouch.

                                          From what I have read about Napoleon’s life, I have very little to no sympathy at all for the historical character Josephine.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 30 Nov 2023, 23:52 last edited by
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                                          @Renauda said in Joaquin Phoenix as Napoleon?:

                                          Ouch.

                                          Yeah, it's a pity. Could have been a great movie. I'm saying that not having seen it, of course. But the comment about Braveheart...

                                          Ouch, indeed.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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