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"Killers of the Flower Moon."

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    The last big Scorsese film? Hope not.

    Education is extremely important.

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      I'm looking forward to it.

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      • MikM Offline
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        Looks excellent.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          It is a tribute to Scorsese’s talent that we started a movie about 8 and watched all 3.5 hours. Dark, disturbing and utterly compelling.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            As a reminder this is the movie we were told a couple of weeks ago was canceled because DeNiro doesn’t like Trump or something.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            • W Do not disturb
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              Both a compelling and disturbing movie. Recommended!

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                What a way to spend a Saturday afternoon.

                One of the best movies I've seen in a long time. Truly a masterpiece by Scorsese. The relatively "minor" roles that were taken by some A-list actors was interesting - Lithgow! I loved the cameo at the end.

                I read the book years ago, but memories fade, and I just remember the overall storyline, not the details. I should revisit it.

                It's available on Apple TV+.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  The detail in the sets and props was impressive. He really set time and place.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    More details in the Wikipedia article about the Osage murders:


                    Sentenced to life imprisonment, Hale, Ramsey, and Ernest Burkhart later received parole despite protests from the Osage. Hale and Ramsey were both paroled in 1947. Hale died in 1962, and Byron died in 1985.

                    Ernest was paroled in 1937. However, in 1940, he and a woman named Clara Mae Goad robbed the Osage home of Lillie Morrell Burkhart, his former sister-in-law, stealing $7,000 in valuables (equivalent to $150,000 in 2022).[34] In 1941, Ernest and Clara were both found guilty of federal burglary charges. Clara was sentenced to 5 years in prison. Ernest was sentenced to 7 years in prison and had his parole revoked. U.S. District Judge Franklin Elmore Kennamer granted Ernest's request not to be sent to the USP Leavenworth, where Hale and Ramsey were serving their life sentences.[35][36] After completing his federal sentence at the United States Penitentiary in Atlanta, Burkhart was returned to the Oklahoma State Penitentiary to resume his life sentence. Ernest was paroled again in October 1959. During his parole hearing, he downplayed his own involvement in the murders, referring to himself as an "unwitting tool" of his uncle.

                    "All I did was deliver a message. Other than that I'm as innocent as you. I delivered a message from my uncle to John Ramsey and that's all I did."[37]

                    In 1966, Ernest applied for a pardon. Citing his cooperation with the investigation (White had credited his confession as vital for the convictions of Hale and Ramsey), the Oklahoma Parole Board voted 3–2 in favor of a pardon, which was granted by Governor Henry Bellmon.[20] Ernest Burkhart died in 1986.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Ernest robbed his former sister in laws house after parole and was sent back to prison.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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