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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

    really disappointing regarding people’s opinion about rule of law vs. emotion.

    And in the same post:

    Either Amend the Constitution or sit down and shut up in the back of the short bus…

    Freedom of Religion is a founding principal of this nation and a fundamental human right. There is not a fundamental human right to have a website designed by a specific company for your wedding. Or for a specific baker to make you a specific type of cake, or for a specific florist to create an arrangement for you. Not even the wildest interpretations of the constitution makes that feasible. The entire argument that you can is based on emotions and not logic.

    You are a content creator and an artist. Let’s say I am a Westboro Baptist Church type of “Christian” or a deeply fundamental Muslim. I approach your company and ask you to create content for my website proclaiming that God Hates Fags and Sodomizers will burn in eternal torment. Should you be required by law to accept my commission and create the content?

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    Aqua Letifer
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    #7

    @LuFins-Dad said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

    really disappointing regarding people’s opinion about rule of law vs. emotion.

    And in the same post:

    Either Amend the Constitution or sit down and shut up in the back of the short bus…

    Freedom of Religion is a founding principal of this nation and a fundamental human right. There is not a fundamental human right to have a website designed by a specific company for your wedding. Or for a specific baker to make you a specific type of cake, or for a specific florist to create an arrangement for you. Not even the wildest interpretations of the constitution makes that feasible. The entire argument that you can is based on emotions and not logic.

    You are a content creator and an artist. Let’s say I am a Westboro Baptist Church type of “Christian” or a deeply fundamental Muslim. I approach your company and ask you to create content for my website proclaiming that God Hates Fags and Sodomizers will burn in eternal torment. Should you be required by law to accept my commission and create the content?

    Bro I totally agree with you I just thought your condemnation over letting emotions take the front seat instead of the law was pretty funny in context to the same post that uses a short bus crack to make its point. No reason to get too deep into it, I agree with the SC decision. 😄

    Please love yourself.

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      Horace
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      The pwnage of libtards evokes the most profound of human emotions. No spiritual awakening, no revelation, can be as meaningful as a pure libtard pwnage.

      Education is extremely important.

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        LuFins Dad
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        #9

        Nothing wrong with emotion, just so long as it’s balanced with reason, logic, and the rule of law!

        The Brad

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        • George KG George K

          @LuFins-Dad said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

          Let’s say I am a Westboro Baptist Church type of “Christian” or a deeply fundamental Muslim. I approach your company and ask you to create content for my website proclaiming that God Hates Fags and Sodomizers will burn in eternal torment.

          No need to go to that extreme. Just do as Crowder did - go to a Mohammeden bakery and ask them to make a wedding cake for you and your husband.

          It's really quite simple, isn't it?

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          Jolly
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          @George-K said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

          @LuFins-Dad said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

          Let’s say I am a Westboro Baptist Church type of “Christian” or a deeply fundamental Muslim. I approach your company and ask you to create content for my website proclaiming that God Hates Fags and Sodomizers will burn in eternal torment.

          No need to go to that extreme. Just do as Crowder did - go to a Mohammeden bakery and ask them to make a wedding cake for you and your husband.

          It's really quite simple, isn't it?

          Almost.

          Much of the reason for Christians being pummeled in this country lies in the nature of the religion. Have a gay group (pick one, any one) start a series of lawsuits such as has been brought against the Colorado bakery, except make it a Muslim bakery.

          Chances are very good that a member of that group might find their head on a shovel as a lawn ornament. Not to mention the folks down at the bakery have lots more shovels, with the Faithful standing in line to use them.

          Suddenly, the thought of dying for one principles isn't worth the cost of the cake.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @George-K said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

            Let’s say I am a Westboro Baptist Church type of “Christian” or a deeply fundamental Muslim. I approach your company and ask you to create content for my website proclaiming that God Hates Fags and Sodomizers will burn in eternal torment.

            No need to go to that extreme. Just do as Crowder did - go to a Mohammeden bakery and ask them to make a wedding cake for you and your husband.

            It's really quite simple, isn't it?

            Almost.

            Much of the reason for Christians being pummeled in this country lies in the nature of the religion. Have a gay group (pick one, any one) start a series of lawsuits such as has been brought against the Colorado bakery, except make it a Muslim bakery.

            Chances are very good that a member of that group might find their head on a shovel as a lawn ornament. Not to mention the folks down at the bakery have lots more shovels, with the Faithful standing in line to use them.

            Suddenly, the thought of dying for one principles isn't worth the cost of the cake.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            @Jolly said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

            @George-K said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

            Let’s say I am a Westboro Baptist Church type of “Christian” or a deeply fundamental Muslim. I approach your company and ask you to create content for my website proclaiming that God Hates Fags and Sodomizers will burn in eternal torment.

            No need to go to that extreme. Just do as Crowder did - go to a Mohammeden bakery and ask them to make a wedding cake for you and your husband.

            It's really quite simple, isn't it?

            Almost.

            Much of the reason for Christians being pummeled in this country lies in the nature of the religion. Have a gay group (pick one, any one) start a series of lawsuits such as has been brought against the Colorado bakery, except make it a Muslim bakery.

            Chances are very good that a member of that group might find their head on a shovel as a lawn ornament. Not to mention the folks down at the bakery have lots more shovels, with the Faithful standing in line to use them.

            This isn't really true. They're not going after Jews, Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists either, none of whom have the reputation the Muslims do. The reason that Christians are reported on as doing this is that it's by far the biggest American religion.

            Are there really a lot of Islamic wedding cake bakers out there?

            I was only joking

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/americans-split-recent-supreme-court-decisions

              A few takeaways

              1. 48% of blacks DO NOT disagree with the Affirmative Action decision. I find that interesting.

              2. I was far more disappointed to see just how many people disagreed with the Loan Forgiveness decision. 45 for and 40 against is really disappointing regarding people’s opinion about rule of law vs. emotion. I also have serious questions for the 15% that are in between.

              3. 43-42 on the Religious Freedom ruling? Either Amend the Constitution or sit down and shut up in the back of the short bus…

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              @LuFins-Dad

              I’ve followed the polling re Affirmative Action over the years and it depends a lot on wording.

              If you ask of race should be taken into consideration, people, including in some polls a majority of blacks, are against it.

              If you ask about “Affirmative Action”, it does much better. It seems to have a good brand and/or people don’t actually understand what it entails.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Jolly said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

                @George-K said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

                Let’s say I am a Westboro Baptist Church type of “Christian” or a deeply fundamental Muslim. I approach your company and ask you to create content for my website proclaiming that God Hates Fags and Sodomizers will burn in eternal torment.

                No need to go to that extreme. Just do as Crowder did - go to a Mohammeden bakery and ask them to make a wedding cake for you and your husband.

                It's really quite simple, isn't it?

                Almost.

                Much of the reason for Christians being pummeled in this country lies in the nature of the religion. Have a gay group (pick one, any one) start a series of lawsuits such as has been brought against the Colorado bakery, except make it a Muslim bakery.

                Chances are very good that a member of that group might find their head on a shovel as a lawn ornament. Not to mention the folks down at the bakery have lots more shovels, with the Faithful standing in line to use them.

                This isn't really true. They're not going after Jews, Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists either, none of whom have the reputation the Muslims do. The reason that Christians are reported on as doing this is that it's by far the biggest American religion.

                Are there really a lot of Islamic wedding cake bakers out there?

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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #13

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

                @Jolly said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

                @George-K said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

                Let’s say I am a Westboro Baptist Church type of “Christian” or a deeply fundamental Muslim. I approach your company and ask you to create content for my website proclaiming that God Hates Fags and Sodomizers will burn in eternal torment.

                No need to go to that extreme. Just do as Crowder did - go to a Mohammeden bakery and ask them to make a wedding cake for you and your husband.

                It's really quite simple, isn't it?

                Almost.

                Much of the reason for Christians being pummeled in this country lies in the nature of the religion. Have a gay group (pick one, any one) start a series of lawsuits such as has been brought against the Colorado bakery, except make it a Muslim bakery.

                Chances are very good that a member of that group might find their head on a shovel as a lawn ornament. Not to mention the folks down at the bakery have lots more shovels, with the Faithful standing in line to use them.

                This isn't really true. They're not going after Jews, Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists either, none of whom have the reputation the Muslims do. The reason that Christians are reported on as doing this is that it's by far the biggest American religion.

                Are there really a lot of Islamic wedding cake bakers out there?

                Perception is reality. Deserved or not, Muslims do have a reputation for defending their faith vigorously and sometimes violently. In this country, Christians do not.

                Part of that lies in the faith, with Christians knowing they will be mocked, scorned and discriminated against. Not saying that all are pacifists, just saying that some of this stuff is expected.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  BinPower
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                  #14

                  If you have questions about your rights or protections in light of these decisions, we encourage you to contact experienced lawyers for professional assistance and advice tailored to your situation. Verkhovets Law is prepared to offer legal support in a variety of areas, including civil and constitutional rights. Our legal team will do everything possible to help you with your rights and responsibilities. Contact us for legal advice and representation.

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                  • B BinPower

                    If you have questions about your rights or protections in light of these decisions, we encourage you to contact experienced lawyers for professional assistance and advice tailored to your situation. Verkhovets Law is prepared to offer legal support in a variety of areas, including civil and constitutional rights. Our legal team will do everything possible to help you with your rights and responsibilities. Contact us for legal advice and representation.

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                    Horace
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                    #15

                    @BinPower said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

                    If you have questions about your rights or protections in light of these decisions, we encourage you to contact experienced lawyers for professional assistance and advice tailored to your situation. Verkhovets Law is prepared to offer legal support in a variety of areas, including civil and constitutional rights. Our legal team will do everything possible to help you with your rights and responsibilities. Contact us for legal advice and representation.

                    Finally. I would like to be permitted to perform egregiously disgusting sex acts in random conference rooms at the law offices of Verkhovets Law. It is long past time for all good Americans to fornicate upon the faces of the good lawyers of Verkhovets law. Our virtue demands our participation in acts of depravity within your offices. Thank you Verkhovets Law for being an ally, and please have hazmat suits and fire hoses available for the cleanup, after our virtues are spent all over your walls.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • B BinPower

                      If you have questions about your rights or protections in light of these decisions, we encourage you to contact experienced lawyers for professional assistance and advice tailored to your situation. Verkhovets Law is prepared to offer legal support in a variety of areas, including civil and constitutional rights. Our legal team will do everything possible to help you with your rights and responsibilities. Contact us for legal advice and representation.

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                      Catseye3
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                      #16

                      @BinPower said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

                      If you have questions about your rights or protections in light of these decisions, we encourage you to contact experienced lawyers for professional assistance and advice tailored to your situation.

                      Do I know you?

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @BinPower said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

                        If you have questions about your rights or protections in light of these decisions, we encourage you to contact experienced lawyers for professional assistance and advice tailored to your situation. Verkhovets Law is prepared to offer legal support in a variety of areas, including civil and constitutional rights. Our legal team will do everything possible to help you with your rights and responsibilities. Contact us for legal advice and representation.

                        Finally. I would like to be permitted to perform egregiously disgusting sex acts in random conference rooms at the law offices of Verkhovets Law. It is long past time for all good Americans to fornicate upon the faces of the good lawyers of Verkhovets law. Our virtue demands our participation in acts of depravity within your offices. Thank you Verkhovets Law for being an ally, and please have hazmat suits and fire hoses available for the cleanup, after our virtues are spent all over your walls.

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                        George K
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                        #17

                        @Horace said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

                        It is long past time for all good Americans to fornicate upon the faces of the good lawyers of Verkhovets law.

                        It's a Canadian firm, so, you're probably out of luck there, friend.

                        Although, JWHT regardless.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Time to take out the trash.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Well, I guess we are always interested in new people joining our forum. LOL

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Time to take out the trash.

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                              @Mik said in Interesting poll re: Supreme Court Decisions:

                              Time to take out the trash.

                              Screenshot 2023-07-04 at 8.31.46 PM.png

                              The IP of the user is in Poland - at least at the moment.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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