Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness
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wrote on 30 Jun 2023, 20:58 last edited by
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wrote on 30 Jun 2023, 21:02 last edited by
@LuFins-Dad ( P)resident uniter.
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wrote on 30 Jun 2023, 21:03 last edited by
Does he know the Supreme Court was involved?
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wrote on 30 Jun 2023, 22:16 last edited by
Someone attempted to point out the hypocrisy of Kavanaugh. Apparently, he had a substantial amount of debt (credit card and others) that was forgiven. He voiced no complaint at that time.
AFAIK, that debt wasn't paid with taxpayer funds, was it?
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Someone attempted to point out the hypocrisy of Kavanaugh. Apparently, he had a substantial amount of debt (credit card and others) that was forgiven. He voiced no complaint at that time.
AFAIK, that debt wasn't paid with taxpayer funds, was it?
wrote on 30 Jun 2023, 22:24 last edited by@George-K said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
Someone attempted to point out the hypocrisy of Kavanaugh. Apparently, he had a substantial amount of debt (credit card and others) that was forgiven. He voiced no complaint at that time.
AFAIK, that debt wasn't paid with taxpayer funds, was it?
According to google, his disappeared debt is little more than a conspiracy theory meant to damage him politically. In any case, it has nothing to do with governmental debt forgiveness.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
They'd be much better off spending the money on expanding the opportunities for lower-cost, high quality higher education.
Yeah, I imagine half a trillion dollars might go a long way.
Another point...
The loan forgiveness is, for most, $10,000. Is that amount of debt-relief "life-changing?" Granted, it's nice, but...it's not a huge amount of money. I suppose, with interest it adds up, tho.
wrote on 1 Jul 2023, 01:02 last edited by@George-K said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
They'd be much better off spending the money on expanding the opportunities for lower-cost, high quality higher education.
Yeah, I imagine half a trillion dollars might go a long way.
Another point...
The loan forgiveness is, for most, $10,000. Is that amount of debt-relief "life-changing?" Granted, it's nice, but...it's not a huge amount of money. I suppose, with interest it adds up, tho.
Only if you’re stupid enough to pay the minimum, just like credit cards. My daughter has $40k in grad school loans. One of the conversations we will have this week is why it is important to pay it off as fast as possible.
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wrote on 1 Jul 2023, 11:32 last edited by@George-K said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
@LuFins-Dad ( P)resident uniter.
The reporter brings up a good point. Biden himself has stated the President does NOT have that type of power. He knew when this started that it wasn’t going to fly. He did capriciously give false hope to millions of Americans, most of whom are now angry at the wrong people…
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@George-K said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
They'd be much better off spending the money on expanding the opportunities for lower-cost, high quality higher education.
Yeah, I imagine half a trillion dollars might go a long way.
Another point...
The loan forgiveness is, for most, $10,000. Is that amount of debt-relief "life-changing?" Granted, it's nice, but...it's not a huge amount of money. I suppose, with interest it adds up, tho.
Only if you’re stupid enough to pay the minimum, just like credit cards. My daughter has $40k in grad school loans. One of the conversations we will have this week is why it is important to pay it off as fast as possible.
wrote on 1 Jul 2023, 11:43 last edited by@Mik said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
@George-K said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
They'd be much better off spending the money on expanding the opportunities for lower-cost, high quality higher education.
Yeah, I imagine half a trillion dollars might go a long way.
Another point...
The loan forgiveness is, for most, $10,000. Is that amount of debt-relief "life-changing?" Granted, it's nice, but...it's not a huge amount of money. I suppose, with interest it adds up, tho.
Only if you’re stupid enough to pay the minimum, just like credit cards. My daughter has $40k in grad school loans. One of the conversations we will have this week is why it is important to pay it off as fast as possible.
I’m not going to say “stupid enough”… Sally Mae is a predatory lender. The things they pull are illegal in other banking/credit/loan industries and they do take advantage of kid’s naïveté. They do not list on their portal what the monthly interest accrual is, there is no amortization table given, and they try to recommend payback plans that don’t cover the interest to let it capitalize. Beyond that, they repeatedly solicit the kids to take out more in their loan to cover computers, cars, and even off campus housing.
I’m glad this was overturned, but it’s time the two most significant problems in student debt are addressed. Administrative bloat at the universities and predatory loan practices for the student. We also need to address the Pell Grant. I really think they need to applucable only for Community Colleges or Trade Schools for the first two years following HS. They can be applied to a 4 year school after you have shown an ability to maintain a 2.0 GPA for two years. It will set more kids up for greater success. And they need to promote that the grants can be used for plumbing school, nursing school, HVAC, and other 2 year degree programs.
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@Mik said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
@George-K said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
They'd be much better off spending the money on expanding the opportunities for lower-cost, high quality higher education.
Yeah, I imagine half a trillion dollars might go a long way.
Another point...
The loan forgiveness is, for most, $10,000. Is that amount of debt-relief "life-changing?" Granted, it's nice, but...it's not a huge amount of money. I suppose, with interest it adds up, tho.
Only if you’re stupid enough to pay the minimum, just like credit cards. My daughter has $40k in grad school loans. One of the conversations we will have this week is why it is important to pay it off as fast as possible.
I’m not going to say “stupid enough”… Sally Mae is a predatory lender. The things they pull are illegal in other banking/credit/loan industries and they do take advantage of kid’s naïveté. They do not list on their portal what the monthly interest accrual is, there is no amortization table given, and they try to recommend payback plans that don’t cover the interest to let it capitalize. Beyond that, they repeatedly solicit the kids to take out more in their loan to cover computers, cars, and even off campus housing.
I’m glad this was overturned, but it’s time the two most significant problems in student debt are addressed. Administrative bloat at the universities and predatory loan practices for the student. We also need to address the Pell Grant. I really think they need to applucable only for Community Colleges or Trade Schools for the first two years following HS. They can be applied to a 4 year school after you have shown an ability to maintain a 2.0 GPA for two years. It will set more kids up for greater success. And they need to promote that the grants can be used for plumbing school, nursing school, HVAC, and other 2 year degree programs.
wrote on 1 Jul 2023, 21:02 last edited by Jolly 7 Jan 2023, 21:03@LuFins-Dad said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
I’m glad this was overturned, but it’s time the two most significant problems in student debt are addressed. Administrative bloat at the universities and predatory loan practices for the student. We also need to address the Pell Grant. I really think they need to applucable only for Community Colleges or Trade Schools for the first two years following HS. They can be applied to a 4 year school after you have shown an ability to maintain a 2.0 GPA for two years. It will set more kids up for greater success. And they need to promote that the grants can be used for plumbing school, nursing school, HVAC, and other 2 year degree programs.
Pretty much. The only change I would make, would be to tie the ACT or SAT to the Pell Grant...If your ACT or SAT is above a certain number, you can use the Pell Grant for your choice of trade school, community college or four year university.
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wrote on 3 Jul 2023, 20:47 last edited by
LOL Washington Post.
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wrote on 3 Jul 2023, 20:55 last edited by
Yeah, good luck getting that through the House.
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wrote on 3 Jul 2023, 21:07 last edited by
@Mik said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
Yeah, good luck getting that through the House.
AOC was on the Sunday gabfest complaining that "something needs to be done."
To a co-equal branch of government. I suppose SCOTUS could be expanded to suit her tastes, but all the other BS? She's just yelling for the sake of the base.
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wrote on 3 Jul 2023, 21:14 last edited by
Yes. Either get it through Congress or forget about it. Upset because a majority of Congressmen disagree? Suck it up, Buttercup.
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Yes. Either get it through Congress or forget about it. Upset because a majority of Congressmen disagree? Suck it up, Buttercup.
wrote on 3 Jul 2023, 21:23 last edited by@Mik said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
Yes. Either get it through Congress or forget about it. Upset because a majority of Congressmen disagree? Suck it up, Buttercup.
Buttercup wasn’t the B word I heard in my head reading this.
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@George-K said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
They'd be much better off spending the money on expanding the opportunities for lower-cost, high quality higher education.
Yeah, I imagine half a trillion dollars might go a long way.
Another point...
The loan forgiveness is, for most, $10,000. Is that amount of debt-relief "life-changing?" Granted, it's nice, but...it's not a huge amount of money. I suppose, with interest it adds up, tho.
Only if you’re stupid enough to pay the minimum, just like credit cards. My daughter has $40k in grad school loans. One of the conversations we will have this week is why it is important to pay it off as fast as possible.
wrote on 3 Jul 2023, 23:01 last edited byMy daughter has $40k in grad school loans. One of the conversations we will have this week is why it is important to pay it off as fast as possible.
Would she have qualified for $10k~$20k of forgiveness?
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My daughter has $40k in grad school loans. One of the conversations we will have this week is why it is important to pay it off as fast as possible.
Would she have qualified for $10k~$20k of forgiveness?
wrote on 3 Jul 2023, 23:12 last edited by@Axtremus said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
My daughter has $40k in grad school loans. One of the conversations we will have this week is why it is important to pay it off as fast as possible.
Would she have qualified for $10k~$20k of forgiveness?
Lucas would have qualified. Would have he benefited? No.
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@Axtremus said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
My daughter has $40k in grad school loans. One of the conversations we will have this week is why it is important to pay it off as fast as possible.
Would she have qualified for $10k~$20k of forgiveness?
Lucas would have qualified. Would have he benefited? No.
wrote on 3 Jul 2023, 23:25 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
Lucas would have qualified. Would have he benefited? No.
Assuming Lucas has a loan exceeding the $10k~$20k that qualifies for forgiveness, how do you figure that the would not have benefited?
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My daughter has $40k in grad school loans. One of the conversations we will have this week is why it is important to pay it off as fast as possible.
Would she have qualified for $10k~$20k of forgiveness?
wrote on 3 Jul 2023, 23:31 last edited by@Axtremus said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
My daughter has $40k in grad school loans. One of the conversations we will have this week is why it is important to pay it off as fast as possible.
Would she have qualified for $10k~$20k of forgiveness?
Yes. Some principles are more important than personal advantage.
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@Axtremus said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
My daughter has $40k in grad school loans. One of the conversations we will have this week is why it is important to pay it off as fast as possible.
Would she have qualified for $10k~$20k of forgiveness?
Yes. Some principles are more important than personal advantage.
wrote on 3 Jul 2023, 23:36 last edited by@Mik said in Friday SCOTUS - Student Loan Forgiveness:
Yes. Some principles are more important than personal advantage.
Which principles are these, in this case?
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wrote on 4 Jul 2023, 00:17 last edited by
You cannot ask that question with a straight face.